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Is Bendis/Maleev's #26-50 better than Born Again? |
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Forrest Lowlife
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Good points, all. For the time being, I'm still thinking Bendis's #26-50 is better, albeit slightly. He broke down Matt/DD, and the superhero in general, in a much more thorough, interesting, and important manner than Miller did.
As much as I love Born Again (I deinitely think it's in the top 10 greatest stories told in the medium), I always felt like it was two different stories:
1) the breakdown and return of DD/Matt
2) ...that silly Nuke stuff.
To this day, I think that the whole Nuke angle really hurt Born Again. |
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Ratchet Flying Blind
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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To: Forrest
From: Ratchet
Get OFF the CRACK.
It kills--brain cells, that is. |
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rgj Hardcore
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1580 Location: The Rio Grande Valley of Texas
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Forrest wrote: | 2) ...that silly Nuke stuff. |
Silly Nuke stuff!?
Give me a red.
rgj |
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The Overlord Paradiso
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Get to go with "Born again", NMiller accomplished for in those 7 issues, then Bendis did in 24 issues. Miller got straight to the point and gave Matt hope and idealism at the end of Born again. Bendis took forever to get to the point and mainly just Matt tragic event, after tragic event. No contenst, Miller takes this one. |
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daredevil99x Fall From Grace
Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 404 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I will probably re-read Bendis' run more often than Miller's, but Born Again is amazing. Overall I'd take Bendis' Daredevil run, but in putting those two section of work from each writer I had to go with Born Again. _________________ "Why should I be frightened of dying?
There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime." |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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rgj wrote: | Forrest wrote: | 2) ...that silly Nuke stuff. |
Silly Nuke stuff!?
Give me a red.
rgj |
<shoots rgj with red dart>
Go get 'em son. _________________ JC
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing? |
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JR Humanity's Fathom
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 343
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: |
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What Alice said. _________________ Even though I'm broke I got a six pack of beer. |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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JR wrote: | What Alice said. |
Quilts rock? _________________ JC
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing? |
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Darediva Wake Up
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1208 Location: Hell's Kitchen South, Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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And yeah, they do. _________________ Alice
Those who throw dirt merely lose ground. |
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The Privateer Redemption
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 740 Location: South Derbyshire, England
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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I've not read Born Again, so I will abstain from voting. Though if it appears to be better than #26-#50, then I had better prioritise it on my reading list.
Good topic Forrest, it has certainly got everyone going! _________________ Always Out-Manned, Never Out-Gunned |
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Forrest Lowlife
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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The Privateer wrote: | I've not read Born Again, so I will abstain from voting. |
You're cheating yourself on so many levels! Next time you pick up a trade on a slow comic day, make it Born Again. If you don't like it, I'll fly across the Atlantic and personally give you a full refund in either pounds or dollars... heck, make it both! |
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Pete Fall From Grace
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 417 Location: Liverpool, UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Private, three words. Read Born Again. |
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noypi-me Tree of Knowledge
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 234 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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they are very different from each other and cannot be compared. if you're gonna base it on the pacing of the story, of course you're gonna favor born again. but that is not bendis' fault. it's a question of preference. but if we're talking about the quality of the books both are of the highest. _________________ "Are you talking to me?
...are you talking to me..." |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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The Privateer wrote: | I've not read Born Again, so I will abstain from voting. Though if it appears to be better than #26-#50, then I had better prioritise it on my reading list.
Good topic Forrest, it has certainly got everyone going! |
I think it's best if no one speak to Private until he reads Born Again.
I'm not kidding. _________________ JC
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing? |
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Kingpin Flying Blind
Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 6 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Born Again
Born Again
Born Again
Even though I love the whole Bendis/Maleev run.
Without "Born Again" there would never be "Out" or "Lowlife" or "Hardcore".
Even Bendis had to learn from someone. |
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