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MercifulAvatar Playing to the Camera
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 117 Location: NEO, US
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I think he did it to get BENDIS! off the book as quickly as possible. _________________ Poser |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I hate to ruin everyone's fun by going all form over substance here but there's at least two form related problems with Steve's initial complaint.
First off, while it's easy to make a motivation based complaint (i.e. "why did character x do y?") it is nearly impossible to answer such a complaint. Matt turned himself in for numerous and complex reasons. Reasons that were defined, explored and revisited over and over again through out Bendis' entire arc. So when Steve is like "I demand to know why Matt turned himself in" the only legit answer is "for all the reasons outlined in Bendis' run....go read the run". He seems to be demanding some sort of short, sweet answer; an unreasonable demand given his question.
Second, it's kinda silly to compare stories from different writers. Why did DD run in one instance and not run in another? Maybe because they were different stories.
Steve's set up his questions so that they're by and large unanswerable. Give me a T. Give me a R. Give me an O. And so on. _________________ JC
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Stephan Humanity's Fathom
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hi JC. I don't agree. What I am suggesting is that there is a possible answer - namely, that Matt is being influenced by a third party (Killgrave, Mysterio or a comparable villan). Matt's principal concerns are safeguarding his kith and kin, and championing Hell's Kitchen. His incarceration endangered his loved ones and ensured that Hell's Kitchen would crumble. Matt Murdock (even if he were unhinged) would never allow this to happen. Unless he is no longer in control of his actions. |
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Stephan Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose what I am asserting, JC, is that protecting his family and Hell's Kitchen are the essence of Matthew Michael Murdock. His incarceration imperiled both his family and Hell's Kitchen. It's simply not something he would permit - even if he had to defy the law. |
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Stephan Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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One more thing (I sound like Columbo now), JC: the law, obviously, is of the utmost importance to Matt Murdock. But does it take priority over his family and the people of Hell's Kitchen? No. |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, are you saying:
1. The character seems to have turned himself in voluntarily but he actually did it for reasons that are as yet unknown.
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2. Bendis and Bru intend to fashion a "just kidding, it was all a trick by a third party" storyline.
Insofar as Matt is an imaginary person (1) can't be the case. And how likely is (2)? In a lot of ways Bendis' run was like Born Again. Both were stories that had Matt mental state at their core. In this way, the whole Bendis arc really was about explaining why Matt would turn himself in. To have a last minute "NOPE....IT WAS PURPLE MAN" thing happen would undercut the entire story.
Just compare it to Born Again. One of the great things about Born Again was how it approached Matt's mental state in a realistic way. Matt was breaking down and it all seemed very real. That's what made the story so powerful. Now imagine if the rug was pulled out from under us. Say Matt wasn't crazy but it was just work of a third party (Mysterio perhaps) using a stupid prop (say....a cross). That would suck (like Guardian Devil).
Nope, no one's behind it. What you see is what you get. _________________ JC
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