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What DON'T you want to see in DD
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave Wallace wrote:
The Bont-bot


Hell yeah! I could totally see a new emmisaries of evil here. Bont-bot, Paste Pot Pete, MODOK and Mindwave. You taking notes Brubaker? This stuff is so money...and you don't even know it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Francesco wrote:
Well, to me the idea of Bont returning to exact his revenge sounds intriguing.
Who cares if it looks like he's dead? People keep dying and resurrect repeatedly in every other side of the Marvel Universe.
Have the story like, say, that Bont had arranged with some hi-tech guy to be made anew with cybernetic implants (should he had an heart attack while trying to kill Murdock in an initial attempt with an old fashioned MGH-pounding) and bang! you got what everyone was waiting for. A new, terrifying addition to DD's villain roster.


I don't think so, a cyborg zombie would be a little too out there for DD. Frankly I hate it when comic book characters are resurrected, its my least favourvite cliche in comics. Just because every other title is resurrecting characters doesn't mean that should be done in the DD title. Bont was a one shot character to bring back as a cyborg zombie would be stupid.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bummer. What about a demonic Bont, with the guy coming back to exact his revenge thanks to a pact with some infernal entity?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Master Meglomaniac wrote:
Francesco wrote:
Well, to me the idea of Bont returning to exact his revenge sounds intriguing.
Who cares if it looks like he's dead? People keep dying and resurrect repeatedly in every other side of the Marvel Universe.
Have the story like, say, that Bont had arranged with some hi-tech guy to be made anew with cybernetic implants (should he had an heart attack while trying to kill Murdock in an initial attempt with an old fashioned MGH-pounding) and bang! you got what everyone was waiting for. A new, terrifying addition to DD's villain roster.


I don't think so, a cyborg zombie would be a little too out there for DD. Frankly I hate it when comic book characters are resurrected, its my least favourvite cliche in comics. Just because every other title is resurrecting characters doesn't mean that should be done in the DD title. Bont was a one shot character to bring back as a cyborg zombie would be stupid.


I agree. Marvel: bring Bont back either as a cyborg or a zombie, but NOT BOTH. Cyborgs are wicked cool and zombie's just make good scientific sense but cyborg zombie's are just ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Francesco wrote:
Bummer. What about a demonic Bont, with the guy coming back to exact his revenge thanks to a pact with some infernal entity?


Didn't Copperhead already do that already? Is Bont going to rip off Copperhead? I mean come on Bont goes from aging crime lord to demon helper? That's just silly. Bont should stay in the grave, where he belongs. The one thing I don't want to see is resurrections in DD.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james castle wrote:
The Master Meglomaniac wrote:
Francesco wrote:
Well, to me the idea of Bont returning to exact his revenge sounds intriguing.
Who cares if it looks like he's dead? People keep dying and resurrect repeatedly in every other side of the Marvel Universe.
Have the story like, say, that Bont had arranged with some hi-tech guy to be made anew with cybernetic implants (should he had an heart attack while trying to kill Murdock in an initial attempt with an old fashioned MGH-pounding) and bang! you got what everyone was waiting for. A new, terrifying addition to DD's villain roster.


I don't think so, a cyborg zombie would be a little too out there for DD. Frankly I hate it when comic book characters are resurrected, its my least favourvite cliche in comics. Just because every other title is resurrecting characters doesn't mean that should be done in the DD title. Bont was a one shot character to bring back as a cyborg zombie would be stupid.


I agree. Marvel: bring Bont back either as a cyborg or a zombie, but NOT BOTH. Cyborgs are wicked cool and zombie's just make good scientific sense but cyborg zombie's are just ridiculous.


Cute.

Seriously, how about he comes back as neither and he stays in the grave, in order to avoid badly writen excuses to bring him back?

Seriously Silvermane already died and came back as a cyborg, is Bont going to rip off Silvermane? Seriously DD fighting some lame 90s cyborg reject would suck and Bont comming back as a cyborg would be stupid, Bendis created him as a one shot character. Bont going from realstic crime boss to an over the top cyborg villain who more or less ripped off Silvermane's gimmick would suck. Bont is better off in the grave, he would lose all his cache if he came back.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this thread took a turn!

Anyway, I agree with Master Meg. Bring back Bont! And, fast! A compelling character like Bont should be expanded on. Perhaps, some unscrupulous corporation is dumping some radioactive viagra-like pills and they dump it on Bont's grave. Forget the cyborgs. Forget the demons. Let Bont come back and confront our intrepid hero as the Man Without Fear takes on Bont in a tale called "Return of the Stiff."

Anyway, good call Master Meg. Bring Back Bont!!!!!

rgj
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgj wrote:
"Return of the Stiff."


Bont exchanges MHG for Viagra? Now that has possibilities.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So someone expand on Bont by telling the stories that happened within his time.

Do not bring back dead characters. I'm even a bit disappointed Foggy was in witness protection.

So I guess #1 on my list is.

#1 The return of any dead characters.

#2 Elektra. Not because I don't like her. I love when she pops into the story but only because she's best when she's a Daredevil supporting character.

Anything else is really fair game for me. Bru and Lark would make Stilt-Man work.

Oh yeah...

#3 No Stilt-Man.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgj wrote:
Well, this thread took a turn!

Anyway, I agree with Master Meg. Bring back Bont! And, fast! A compelling character like Bont should be expanded on. Perhaps, some unscrupulous corporation is dumping some radioactive viagra-like pills and they dump it on Bont's grave. Forget the cyborgs. Forget the demons. Let Bont come back and confront our intrepid hero as the Man Without Fear takes on Bont in a tale called "Return of the Stiff."

Anyway, good call Master Meg. Bring Back Bont!!!!!

rgj


Now if Bont returned as a radioactive, super horny Zombie I would be pleased. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM wrote:
Now if Bont returned as a radioactive, super horny Zombie I would be pleased.


That's the spirit!


rgj
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seriously, how about he comes back as neither and he stays in the grave, in order to avoid badly writen excuses to bring him back?


I'm not saying that Bont should be brought back as an "end" to something. I'm saying that if he came back with some plot twist it could be intriguing.

Quote:
Seriously Silvermane already died and came back as a cyborg, is Bont going to rip off Silvermane?


Well, in fact, I must admit, that would be the only relevant problem.

Quote:
Seriously DD fighting some lame 90s cyborg reject would suck and Bont comming back as a cyborg would be stupid, Bendis created him as a one shot character.


Three presuppositions in a row.

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Bont is better off in the grave, he would lose all his cache if he came back.


He wouldn't lose anything IMO, because, let's face it, he had not much of a cache to begin with. He could only gain something.

I agree, however, with the fact that he shouldn't come back as both a zombie and a cyborg, unless the writer also puts dinosaurs in the mix (that would be awesome).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Master Meglomaniac wrote:

Seriously, how about he comes back as neither and he stays in the grave, in order to avoid badly writen excuses to bring him back?

Seriously Silvermane already died and came back as a cyborg, is Bont going to rip off Silvermane? Seriously DD fighting some lame 90s cyborg reject would suck and Bont comming back as a cyborg would be stupid, Bendis created him as a one shot character. Bont going from realstic crime boss to an over the top cyborg villain who more or less ripped off Silvermane's gimmick would suck. Bont is better off in the grave, he would lose all his cache if he came back.


I couldn't agree more. The cyborg idea is stupid and is clear a rip on Silvermane (the most popular and talked about villian of all time). Therefore, it should definately be a zombie thing that brings Bont back. They could even get Kirkman to co-write it.

The best part about the whole thing is that just like Master says Bont could just stay in his grave. Think about it: crime bosses don't do they're own dirty work. They send out their henchmen while they stay back in the office. Where would a zombie crime boss hang out? In his grave, of course. He could sit there and send out zombie version of all the DD villians who have died over the years. What a wicked idea. You're a genius Master. You've figured out an awesome way that Bont can come back AND stay in his grave.

Has someone started a petition yet? Where can I sign.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

james castle wrote:
The Master Meglomaniac wrote:

Seriously, how about he comes back as neither and he stays in the grave, in order to avoid badly writen excuses to bring him back?

Seriously Silvermane already died and came back as a cyborg, is Bont going to rip off Silvermane? Seriously DD fighting some lame 90s cyborg reject would suck and Bont comming back as a cyborg would be stupid, Bendis created him as a one shot character. Bont going from realstic crime boss to an over the top cyborg villain who more or less ripped off Silvermane's gimmick would suck. Bont is better off in the grave, he would lose all his cache if he came back.


I couldn't agree more. The cyborg idea is stupid and is clear a rip on Silvermane (the most popular and talked about villian of all time). Therefore, it should definately be a zombie thing that brings Bont back. They could even get Kirkman to co-write it.

The best part about the whole thing is that just like Master says Bont could just stay in his grave. Think about it: crime bosses don't do they're own dirty work. They send out their henchmen while they stay back in the office. Where would a zombie crime boss hang out? In his grave, of course. He could sit there and send out zombie version of all the DD villians who have died over the years. What a wicked idea. You're a genius Master. You've figured out an awesome way that Bont can come back AND stay in his grave.

Has someone started a petition yet? Where can I sign.


Unless Bont comes back as super horn ycyborg zombie, he shouldn't come back at all. Bont deserves the best return possible. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgj wrote:
Well, this thread took a turn!

Anyway, I agree with Master Meg. Bring back Bont! And, fast! A compelling character like Bont should be expanded on. Perhaps, some unscrupulous corporation is dumping some radioactive viagra-like pills and they dump it on Bont's grave. Forget the cyborgs. Forget the demons. Let Bont come back and confront our intrepid hero as the Man Without Fear takes on Bont in a tale called "Return of the Stiff."

Anyway, good call Master Meg. Bring Back Bont!!!!!

rgj


Heh. You guys know what the big bad side effect of Viagra is, I'm sure. Besides THAT one. It can make you go blind. So, how would that throw another kink into the story. Cool
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