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Dave Wallace Paradiso
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1074 Location: Birmingham, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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I can't agree with JC and Forrest here. Infinite Crisis was more of a flop than DC cares to admit, and one which gave the illusion of change but actually changed very little. I do think Marvel caters for the longtime fan at the same time as trying to keep new readers happy. I just think that they don't rely on years of history and old stories in order to make their current output relevant.
I don't want to get into a "Marvel vs. DC" thing here because I think we're above that. |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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The Master Meglomaniac wrote: | Personally i like it when stories are self contained, I don't want to have to read astory from 20 years ago or even a completely different mini series to understand the current one (having to read Identity Crisis from 2 years ago to understand Infinite Crisis) I don't want have to spend a lot money getting all these mini series and tie-ins just to understand a story. |
And that, my friend, is what makes you the perfect Marvel reader. Marvel's not insane. It's not like they've taken this short-term, hopping on point virtually everywhere approach because they don't like making money. They know that there's lots of people out there (like yourself) who can't be bothered following a comic for a long time. Some people want thrills and spills that span...I dunno....six months? In fact, lots of people want that and that's what Marvel provides.
The problem is that there's something very special that happens when you follow a comic for a long time. An example for me was Preacher. I followed that sucker almost from the beginning and it was the fact that it was part of my life for so long that made the end/whole story that much more important to me.
Dave Wallace wrote: |
I can't agree with JC and Forrest here. Infinite Crisis was more of a flop than DC cares to admit, and one which gave the illusion of change but actually changed very little. I do think Marvel caters for the longtime fan at the same time as trying to keep new readers happy. I just think that they don't rely on years of history and old stories in order to make their current output relevant.
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Errrr. Really? I don't think I've ever heard anyone call Infinite Crisis a "flop". I think you're a little by yourself there. Plus, you can't exactly slag DC for not changing enough in the face of Marvel's silly little songs and dances. "No More Mutants"? Yeah, no more lame mutants no one knows or cares about.
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I don't want to get into a "Marvel vs. DC" thing here because I think we're above that.
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Well, I'm not above anything. That said, I don't think it's a Marvel vs. DC thing. Like I think it's gotten to the point where they're just doing different things. It's comparing apples and oranges. Marvel is about the short term and the popular and the following of fads right now while DC has a little bit more of a long term thing going on. It's like the gay character thing. Marvel was all about "well, we have to feel out the current political climate and see if a gay character would be accepted" and DC was like "yeah, one of our new characters is gay". It's just a different approach that plays to different tastes. _________________ JC
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing? |
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Forrest Lowlife
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dave Wallace wrote: | [Infinite Crisis] gave the illusion of change but actually changed very little. |
I'll agree with that.
Dave Wallace wrote: | I don't want to get into a "Marvel vs. DC" thing here because I think we're above that. |
I don't want to get into an discussion of which company is better, even though that's essentially what I did.
Both companies are very different and they may not be a bad things because readers are very different. Of course many readers, like myself, have clear preferences toward either Marvel or DC and I think this thread has addressed one of the biggest, if not the biggest difference between DC and Marvel. I think it's interesting to examine how these companies are different, but you're right, I don't want to get into feud over which company is better because they appear to be apples and oranges.
That said, it is interesting to think how the future of DD might be different if it was a DC book. I think Bendis really pushed the envelope on what a Marvel book, or even a mainstream (Marvel/DC) big name superhero comic is allowed to do. I think that has freed up Brubaker to do essentially whatever he wants with DD. _________________ "Flash is back. Worlds will die again!" |
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