Daredevil Message Board

[Auzi]

At the Wizard World Convention Last Week, “Ghost Rider” helmer Mark Steven Johnson said he’d be keen to not only do a sequel to the Nicolas Cage starrer, but also his earlier superhero effort, “Daredevil”.

According to Aint it Cool, Johnson said he’d like to do a sequel that uses the ‘Born Again’ storyline as its template.

"Daredevil: Born Again" is a story arc in Marvel Comics' series. The story details Daredevil's fall to insanity and destitution at the hands of The Kingpin, as well as his subsequent struggle to build a new life for himself. It is considered by many fans to be the definitive Frank Miller written Daredevil story.

Unfortunately, MSJ thinks he’d have a bit of a fight on his hands – because FOX aren’t keen on to put the guy in crimson back on the screen; not after the failure of “Elektra” anyway. The studio has “shelved” any future “Daredevil” instalment, he said.

If FOX did decide to do a sequel to “Daredevil”, it sounds like they’d have to recast. Ben Affleck said recently that he’d never wear tights again (just on a film set, I assume?). “By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero," Affleck told the press at the London premiere of “Hollywoodland”. "Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."

Though rumours suggested Jason Behr (“The Grudge”, “Skinwalkers”) was in talks at one stage to replace Affleck for a sequel, reps for the actor say, “That’s not true.” Perceptibly a nice fan movement to get Behr the role, me thinks.

Michael Clarke Duncan, on the other hand, would be keen to return for a sequel. The actor who played the villain Kingpin in the first film said he’s got some great ideas for a follow-up. "I had thought what would be kind of cool that we see him in jail, we see him in prison, we see him...you start from the end of 'Daredevil', before the sirens and Daredevil is gone and you see the Kingpin in shackles you see him going to prison you see him getting locked up and you see his boys sitting there saying 'Well what are you going to do now?' And he just starts to think 'I need to train, I need to get better, I need to get quicker'."


FROM: http://www.moviehole.net/news/20061113_mark_steven_johnson_wants_dare.html

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YAHOO!!! OMG, sounds like its going to happen, yeah, i can't wait to see it, they should need to bring all the actors back and change the studio this time, so that MARK STEVEN JOHNSON could make his own movie, i think SONY would be good as they were very supportive with MARK STEVEN JOHNSON on GHOST RIDER!!!




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[james castle]

I'd just like to say how proud I am of everyone on this board for not giving this thread any play. Is it possible that the vast majority of us have finally accepted that any hope of a second DD movie is finally gone.

It brings a tear to my eye.
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JC

So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

[Auzi]

Here's something more on Daredevil sequel:


Johnson said, "Oh man, I would just love it. I wish they would. I've spoken really bluntly about my feelings about the movie. I still love the movie, even with all the flaws. Fox, for some reason, they have it in their heads that Elektra was the sequel to Daredevil -- which was a terrible movie. I'm hoping they'll still go ahead with it or if not, they'll give the rights back to Marvel, who has their own money now and can do their own thing and get it right. My dream would be to go back, reboot it and do a 'Born Again' storyline. And then maybe do a Daredevil: Yellow -- or at least a Daredevil: Yellow televisions series. That would be awesome. I think there are so many great stories to tell."



From:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/3155.asp

[Forrest]

...same boat as before, jc...

Thanks for the post, Azui. I think all of us would like to see a DD sequel but I think that would be about as realistic as seeing Chichester (early 90s DD writer) write Ultimate DD. I'm in the believe it when I see it category (literally). And after to terrible editing in the theatrical cut of DD and just the all around terrible Elektra movie, I am not hopeful that the powers that be (Avi? ) wouldn't screw up a DD sequel terribly.
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[Auzi]

Here's MSJ talking about DAREDEVIL sequel & DD stuff in one of the very recent interview by superhero hype:




SHH!: If you had carte blanche on a Daredevil sequel, would you be interested?
MSJ: I'd love to do it, and I've love it if I could reboot it, and go back to Man Without Fear.

SHH!: I've heard it talked about.
MSJ: I know. I hear it talked about too.

SHH!: Affleck said he wouldn't do another one.
MSJ: He said he wouldn't do another one, which is great. God bless him. I love Ben. But the point is...

SHH!: Did you swear that you wouldn't do another one?
MSJ: I haven't said that. No, but you know what? It's like, the truth is, is that the movie did make them a lot of money. And they thought that a lot of that was because of Elektra. So they made the Elektra movie.

SHH!: Which was a great movie.
MSJ: Which I had nothing to do with. I have a credit on because I did Daredevil. I didn't write it or anything else. But it was a really bad movie and it tanked. And so they're like, "Well that's done." I was like, "No, you don't get it. Daredevil's a great character. He's a handicapped superhero. You've never seen that before. People went because of that." And they really believed it was because of the sex. It was because of her. So they thought that Elektra was the sequel to Daredevil. Which it's not.

SHH!: That's what's great about the director's cut. You pull back on that.
MSJ: That's what's correct. It's not about her. She's a huge part of the movie, but it's not about her. It's about them.






You can read the full interview in here:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4965

[james castle]

Chichester is gonna write Ultimate DD? Awesome!
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JC

So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

[rgj]

Hey, Mark, I want to see a Daredevil movie REBOOT too! Just like you! Only, I pray that you have absolutely nothing to do with it. By the way, can anyone predict that the next Marvel character they give to MSJ is going to be yet another one he loved since childhood. Speedball?? "Uh, yeah, sure I've loved that character since I was 10."

rgj

[zolovi3]

Not to hurt his feelings, but can someone who knows how to direct a good movie sign on for DD2 other than Mark Steven Johnson. And by not to hurt his feelings I mean hurt his feelings.
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How can you be so obtuse?

[Forrest]

[rgj]

[james castle]

So much head shaking.

I agree with rgj, I barely noticed the whole Daredevil as killer thing when I saw the movie. Yeah it's out of character and yeah it shouldn't have been in there but it was the least of the movie's problems.

"What do you want?" "Justice"....in what world are those lines in a script that is anything but god awful?

Plus, how is the origin in the movie better? In the comic Matt is blinded by his first heroic act. In the movie he's blinded because he wasn't looking where he was going.

And the flaming DD. Oh the flaming DD.

And Elektra assuming Daredevil didn't kill her dad because Matt was Daredevil even though she saw (or thought she saw) Daredevil kill her dad.

Or Matt lying unable to move and then getting up like he was just napping.

Awful, awful, awful script.

I haven't seen the DC but unless the above things were cut out (and I understand they weren't) it can't possibly be a good movie.

As for MSJ wanting to write a better DD movie....what? He wrote the first one for Christ's sake. He wants to reboot the crap he made? Comon.
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JC

So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

[zolovi3]

[quote="Forrest"]

[Forrest]

Wow, the venomous backlash!

I like the movie origin of Matt's powers because it directly tied Jack's tragic efforts to be a good father (working for the mob to pay the bills) to the tragedy of Matt's accident. Still, it tied Matt's own motivation and desire to succeed to this accident (he was looking for his father, so he could flaunt his A's report card). All in all, it brought so much more dimension to Matt/DD and it intensified the connection between Jack and DD, which I have always loved and preferred to the similar Uncle Ben-to-Spidey tie.

I found this sort of subtle care in many areas of MSJ's script, especially in the interaction between Matt and Jack. More so than in almost any other superhero film, I got the definite impression that the script writer cared about the hero and had been a long time fan.

I see things like the flaming DD sign as surface quirks of the movie that really don't bug me.

My primary complaints of the movie, in order:
1) editing (only applies to the theatrical cut)
2) casting Garner as Elektra (she did a TERRIBLE job)
3) DD letting Quesada die

Otherwise, I don't really see major problems with the movie.

I can't stress enough that the heart of the movie was essentially cut out of the theatrical cut.

If the casting of Elektra had been done as carefully as the casting of MJ (Spidey movies) and if the DD director's cut had been shown in theaters (as the original cut), I have no doubt that a DD sequel would already be in the works/in theaters. The director's cut makes that much of a difference.[/b]
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[rgj]

So, any response is considered venomous now? Anyway, this movie debate has been beaten to death, and although I don't mind taking a whack at the corpse (5B!, 5B!, 5B!) if someone wants to bring it up again, I'd better stop now since any response will be considered "venomous." But, hey, as I said . . .



have at it, to each his own

rgj

[Forrest]