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| How did you feel about the armor costume stories? |
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the gael
Playing to the Camera
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
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Well, in fact I don't like the whole chichester's stuff. No, I HATE the whole chichester's stuff.
Yes, his vision of the radar sense was impressive, but what about the story ?
the black armour wasn't bad, but it didn't look what a devil should look ( thanks to McDaniel, DD seems to have a rat head ! ).
The whole Jack Battling story was infamous. For no reason ( yes, you wil say " Matt identity was exposed " but come on, who could believe that a blind lawyer can be a masked vigilante after what he and ben did in the end... ) Matt faked his death and become that Jack Battling.
What a terrible idea ! DD is about law and justice. Matt was and IS that, Jack Battling wasn't. I hope that Bendis has learned from this mistake.
Look at the whole chichester run : every episode, DD fight the villian of the week with some guest star ( the more guest star, the best the book is for D G ). Venom appeared one or two issue and disappeared after an unfinished fight that DD was near to win. Has this any sense ?
I am a huge Miller, Nocenti and now Bendis fan, but what chichester did nearly killed DD for me. It wasn't the same character and hasn't any interest.
DeMattis' "fix" was ridiculous, childish and stupid, Yes, but for what I have seen, it was impossible to bring back Matt Murdock and the red costume after what chichester did.
Have I forgotten something ? Oh Yes, chichester killed for no reason Glorianna O'Breen ! |
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Kuljit Mithra
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Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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Location: Canada
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| the gael wrote: |
Have I forgotten something ? Oh Yes, chichester killed for no reason Glorianna O'Breen ! |
Yes, that whole Kruel storyline was something to behold.
This timeframe, from after Humanity's Fathom (or Fathoms of Humanity if you prefer), was not a highlight of DD.
Changing editors, changing imprints... it's a wonder so many of us stuck through it.
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Forrest
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| the gael wrote: |
Have I forgotten something ? Oh Yes, chichester killed for no reason Glorianna O'Breen ! |
Didn't Alan Smithee kill her? I'll have to double check. |
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Kuljit Mithra
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Forrest
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| the gael wrote: | | " Matt identity was exposed " but come on, who could believe that a blind lawyer can be a masked vigilante after what he and ben did in the end... ) |
I think that's an interesting statement because if an event like the outing of DD occurred in the real world, tons of people would believe it! Look at the last US presidential election (and pretty much politics in general): so many people on either side would constantly site strange and difficult to support notions intended as an attack on the other side. People buy this stuff! (The masses aren't always logical.) Especially if you're living in the Marvel Universe, where Galactus and Silver Surfer duke it out in NYC, telepathic suggestion is real, and mutants of every kind can be found almost anywhere. The idea of a blind guy fighting crime doesn't seem so far fetched. People wouldn't just say, "He's blind! Duh!"
That is another problem with the "fix" to Chichester's final DD stories; Matt would have been hounded until the day he died with questions about being DD. This is an area where immediate-post-Chichester writers failed big time, but Bendis is shining. The way Bendis writes the impact of Matt's (second) outing as DD is exactly how it would happen! |
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Forrest
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Neat. I didn't know that.  |
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Forrest
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuljit Mithra wrote: |
Yes, that whole Kruel storyline was something to behold.
This timeframe, from after Humanity's Fathom (or Fathoms of Humanity if you prefer), was not a highlight of DD.
Changing editors, changing imprints... it's a wonder so many of us stuck through it. |
I have to agree; I that wasn't the best of DD moments. I did like the writing, aside from the lame story.
I'm just glad that eventually we got Karl Kessel and Cary Nord. Those guys were great! |
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the gael
Playing to the Camera
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | That is another problem with the "fix" to Chichester's final DD stories; Matt would have been hounded until the day he died with questions about being DD. This is an area where immediate-post-Chichester writers failed big time, but Bendis is shining. The way Bendis writes the impact of Matt's (second) outing as DD is exactly how it would happen! |
Yes, Bendis did an amazing job. his story is so much more powerfull than the " fall from grace " storyline. Bendis rocks while chichester sucks.
| Quote: | | I'm just glad that eventually we got Karl Kessel and Cary Nord. Those guys were great! |
Yes, Daredevil was fun to see with them. A good " old school DD " |
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Darediva
Wake Up
Joined: 29 Jul 2004
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Location: Hell's Kitchen South, Arkansas, USA
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuljit Mithra wrote: | | the gael wrote: |
Have I forgotten something ? Oh Yes, chichester killed for no reason Glorianna O'Breen ! |
Yes, that whole Kruel storyline was something to behold.
This timeframe, from after Humanity's Fathom (or Fathoms of Humanity if you prefer), was not a highlight of DD.
Changing editors, changing imprints... it's a wonder so many of us stuck through it. |
When I identified myself as a hardcore Daredevil fan to Dan Buckley at Wizard World Texas, his first question was, "How long have you been reading Daredevil?" I told him from the beginning, sporadically at times, but I have nearly every issue now. His reply was, "You must be a true fan, you've stuck with him through some mighty awful stuff." Then he said there was some great stuff on the horizon.
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Forrest
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| Darediva wrote: |
When I identified myself as a hardcore Daredevil fan to Dan Buckley at Wizard World Texas, his first question was, "How long have you been reading Daredevil?" I told him from the beginning, sporadically at times, but I have nearly every issue now. His reply was, "You must be a true fan, you've stuck with him through some mighty awful stuff." Then he said there was some great stuff on the horizon. |
I'd like to see a book with silverage roots that hasn't had terrible times. No matter how big the character, it seems that strange, commercially based storylines or plain bad creators take hold. Check out Spider-Man's clone saga, Superman's death and rebirth (Red / Blue stuff), Batman's Knightfall (well, I've yet to read Knightfall, but it might have actually been done well), etc. |
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