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| Is Frank Miller's art overhyped? |
| Yep, gimme Gene Colan |
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jimdare
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| ozddzealot wrote: | what an outstanding post jim  salutations and cap doffing are in order
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Very kind of you to say;cheers,mate.  |
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Top_Quality
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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to be honest..... Millers art is O.K. there really nothing too special except for the fact that he brought the darker side of things to DD and Batman but yet again those darken things i think came from his writting and the art just helped it settle.(when he did batman, he made charactors too bulky) But in the long it was him that brought the good ol' blood splatter scenes that we all enjoyed or that we all felt dirty reading it. I think what I'm try to get at is without Millers art and writting in the same book, it just wouldnt be the same
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Forrest
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Top_Quality wrote: | | I think what I'm try to get at is without Millers art and writting in the same book, it just wouldnt be the same |
I disagree. I think his later "Fall from Grace" and the "Man Without Fear" stories are extraordinary and at least on par with the DD issues that he wrote and penciled, simultaneously. |
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Forrest
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| jimdare wrote: | | Colan hasn't got a "visionairies" volume yet,right? Miller has three. |
Is this a point that sales equals artistic value? I think that's a flawed arguement, especially in comics. Look at the 90's Death of Superman stuff. It sold insane numbers, but it wasn't all that special. Then, amazing stuff like Gotham Central is way down on the 100 bestseller list, if it's there at all. |
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Top_Quality
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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im just saying its jsut not the same not saying the books are ****
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jimdare
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Forrest wrote:
| Quote: | | Is this a point that sales equals artistic value? I think that's a flawed arguement, especially in comics. |
I didn't write those loquacious and detailed posts to simply conclude "sales equals artistic value". Surely you could see that if you read them in their entirety. Those "visionaires" of Miller's reflects his immense impact and influence(as much visually as literarily),whatever the sales may or may not have been,and whether you agree with it or not is merely incidental,I'm afraid. However,you're still entitled to your opinion,Forrest. Keep on keepin' on,I guess. |
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