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The Death of Daredevil: Speculation

 
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Sunni
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Murdock wrote:
Books don't always directly line up chronologically. MK20 could take place before the end of Daredevil, for example.

That’s a valid point as Deadpool is set after Spider-man/Deadpool at the moment.

Mike Murdock wrote:
That being said, the lack of interaction with others in the District Attorney's Office comes across almost in an early Lee/Ditko Spider-Man that everyone thinks Matt is snobby and shirking his responsibilities when he had to be Daredevil. Either way, the lack of a supporting cast in the DA's Office remained the thing that bothered me the most about Soule's run.

I liked Matt’s boss and his mentorship of Matt, but Ellen, those two co-workers who resented Matt and tried to sabotage his trial work, and that guy who was a Daredevil fan all needed more work. I don’t know if the last three even had names?

Dimetre wrote:
Wow. If that was Soule's intention, that did not come through to me at all.

Mike Murdock wrote:
I think there's a little bit of it early when he was avoiding talking to Foggy (although Foggy wasn't thrilled with him). Certainly, the depression aspect was clear when he gets shot at in that one story.

Mike Murdock wrote:
So I think Soule presented Matt having depression effectively, but not necessarily the consequences of that depression.

I think it’s all visibly right there, but also easily missed at the same time. For example, I think the fact that we only see him eat and drink with Foggy and Sam was supposed to be a red flag that was Matt not taking care of himself, but as a reader that’s also easily rationalized away as he did that off-panel, and we didn’t see it on panel because it wasn’t relevant to the plot. So, I liked the bleak atmosphere lapping at the edges of the writing, but considering Matt’s depression was the crux of his run, Soule could have pushed it a little harder to make it clear those small details like that were intentional. It wouldn’t have even had to have been something big, something little like Foggy throwing Matt a surprise birthday party, and Matt freaking out would have been enough to make the point that Matt isn’t doing well.

Daredevil24 wrote:
Can't we just get Matt with a supporting cast, with him just fighting crime.

If only it were that easy.

Daredevil24 wrote:
I'm over the hidden depression or over the top humor. I'd like a balance like Ann Nocenti had pre Mary or even D.G Chickhester pre Fall From Grace.

I prefer the darker slant, but I think it’s important that whatever the tone is has a counterpoint, otherwise it’s a cartoon or a slog. Lighter needs to be balanced by grounded emotional moments, darker needs to be balanced by some level of humor.

Daredevil24 wrote:
Daredevil seems more popular than ever so you'd think his comics would be in the top 50 since it used to be there without any media assistance.

He’s usually around 65, which I think is pretty good considering how hard the market is right now, and what makes his series so good (the character depth and introspection) also limits his larger appeal as there’s just not the level of sheer spectacle in his stories that’s in the more bombastic titles.

Obviously Marvel disagrees which is why we’re getting what we are coming up.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't posted here in a while. Combination of spending too much time online and just a lack of enthusiasm caused me to step away for a while. I've enjoyed Soule's Daredevil for the most part, but it just lacks the depth I need in Matt Murdock and his supporting cast to be excited about the book the way I used to. I still buy it every month but its a solid "B" book. I miss the days when it was consistently an "A" book.

All this talk and buzz about "death" and the likely relaunch has gotten my attention. Also Season 3 next week has me beyond pumped.

I'll echo the sentiment I've read that if Matt is really dead and not featured in this "Man Without Fear" series, my interest is zero. I'll buy almost anything with Daredevil in it, but I'm not wasting money on a series about other characters talking about Matt.

I wonder about this upcoming death. There is also the Marvel Knights series coming out after his "death" that features an amnesiac Matt. Now theres' no guarantee this takes place after the Death story Soul is crafting, but if it doesn't, this is some piss poor planning from Marvel.

I wonder if possibly "Daredevil" is going to die, or at least appear to die to the world, and Matt is going to try to stop being a vigilante for a while. This could make sense as a sort of reversal of whats happening to him in the Netflix series in Season 3. Marvel likes their synergy. Maybe this Man Without Fear series is about Matt Murdock reconnecting with all the people and different corners of his world that he has been ignoring and neglecting for years. If this is the case, obviously it will be temporary and he will see the need to balance his two lives.

I'm not trying to speak for other fans, but I'd wager a huge number of Daredevil fans are not gonna stick around for this miniseries if it doesn't include Matt and certainly not for a new Daredevil series starring someone else under that horned mask. I'm certainly not.
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