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Would you like to see an Ultimate Daredevil Ongoing? |
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DarkElektraPhoenix Flying Blind
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 37
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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I want to see Ultimate Typhoid Mary. _________________
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The Overlord Paradiso
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Lonewolf wrote: | you know how I feel, so yes. There are still characters in the Daredevil universe that I havent even seen in an issue *Mr. Fear for example* so id love to get a chance to see some Daredevil stories that I probably will never see unless they make an Ultimate DD. |
Well some characters like Mr. Fear have become so convoluted in regular MU it be hard to write for them (There have been four Mr. Fears and they never explained how Larry Cranston came back from the dead.)
If there there was an Ultimate DD title such characters could be reintroduced and revamped. For example here is how I would handle Ultimate Mr. Fear.
Larry Cranston was always pushed by his parents to be the top in school, but he was always outshined by Matt Murdock.
When Cranston found out that Murdock was blind, he was overjoyed believing his rival had been dealt with. However Murdock still bested Cranston in school, graduated with the highest grade point average in high school.
Both Murdock and Cranston went to Columbia University to study law. Murdock was still the better student and Cranston decided the only way to best Murdock was to cheat. Cranston decided to steal the exam answers, but Murdock through dumb luck and super senses discovered Cranston scheme and had him reported to the dean. Cranston was exspelled.
With parents disowning him, Cranston became a janitor, in the lab of a famous scientist from Eastern europe Dr. Zoltan Drago. One night Drago accidently created a chemical compund that created fear in anyone who exposed to it. Cranston murdered Drago and set the lab ablaze, making it look like an accident, to cover up the fact that he stole the fear serum.
Now he is ready to gain revenge on Murdock. |
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The Privateer Redemption
Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 740 Location: South Derbyshire, England
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I'll say no, from what I have read, the Ultimate DD & Elektra titles have been poor, I have still bought them though. I agree with the majority, DD has an established history and it doesn't need smoothing over with a new Ultimate line.
I also do not think it will happen as DD is not a big title like Spiderman or Xmen, it would not generate enough sales for them. Sorry everyone, DD is a niche comic, I think that Marvel want the Ultimate line to be for small series to tell a story Ult DD etc and the on-going series are for the what-ifs on the big Marvel stars.
I am not knocking DD in the slightest, one of my faves, but I see the UU as a way of doubling up your stories, as in "I'll buy Amazing Spiderman and also Ult. SM as well", DD does not have the mass market that SM & Xmen are in. I think that Ult FF will not be a long runner, but I have no idea on the sales numbers though so I could be talking a load of rubbish!
That said, I loooooove the Ultimates, Ultimate Nightmare, Ultimate six etc. Ult DD was just a let down. I would love to see an Ult Punisher, Frank killing everyone is always good reading for me.
Make the Ultimate Universe pay Frank. _________________ Always Out-Manned, Never Out-Gunned |
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zminusx Playing to the Camera
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 151
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: |
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While I think the Ultimate DD/Elektra has been really so so (easy to read but extremely forgettable) I've enjoyed his little guest appearances in other Ultimate books.
So for me...I'm all for it...if care is put into it. |
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TheManWithoutFear Fall From Grace
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 468 Location: Dunmore, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:47 am Post subject: |
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zminusx wrote: | While I think the Ultimate DD/Elektra has been really so so (easy to read but extremely forgettable) I've enjoyed his little guest appearances in other Ultimate books.
So for me...I'm all for it...if care is put into it. |
I like you _________________ A man without hope is a man without fear
www.UltimateCentral.com |
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Nick MB Flying Blind
Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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No, I really wouldn't go for this... An Ultimate title is not needed, in my opinion. You could start another Marvel Universe DD title, or a series set in past continuity, and it would be able to do practically anything an Ultimate title could. Furthermore, I think the Ultimate line needs to be kept small.
If someone came in with a new twist on DD (like Millar did for the Avengers/Ultimates), then maybe you could justify it, but the fact is they can't even really do that now, since Ultimate Murdock has already appeared in UMTU and a miniseries (or two?) and is practically identical to his counterpart. Fact is, if they didn't do it when the movie came out, I don't see them doing it now. |
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DAREDEVIL Flying Blind
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well i would love nothing more than an ultimate daredevil ongoing title in the MU but since it aint happening, at least they shoul do an ultimate daredevil miniseries, a solo one because the ultimate elektra and daredevil and elektra are really good stories, but it just reveal more their relationship and elektra's origin as an assasin or criminal whatever.
But an ultimate daredevil title featuring daredevil telling us his origin would be good, of course that this should be a retelling origin story for Matt, since he has appeared as an adult lawyer in the ultimate universe, instead of the man of 20 years (as Isee it int he daredevil elektra story). At least what fans wnat is an ultimate daredevil origin, a tale showing us his part in the ultimate universe and how he became daredevil.
If this ever happens they should us the same artist as the ultimate elktra story and (in my opinion) Frank Miller writting it.
Well that's my opinions for now. |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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DAREDEVIL wrote: |
If this ever happens they should us the same artist as the ultimate elktra story and (in my opinion) Frank Miller writting it.
Well that's my opinions for now. |
A retelling of DD's origin written by Frank Miller....hmmmm....where could someone go and read something like that? _________________ JC
So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing? |
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Nick MB Flying Blind
Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:58 am Post subject: |
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james castle wrote: |
A retelling of DD's origin written by Frank Miller....hmmmm....where could someone go and read something like that? |
And people say Ultimate Daredevil would be redundant. |
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DAREDEVIL Flying Blind
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa oopss!! sorry I made a mistake by writting that part of Frank Miller, well I was dpoiong some homewrok at the same time I post taht here so sorry bout the mistake, I meant to write Brian Bendis. |
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Goddess0Whim Fall From Grace
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 410 Location: Central, NYS
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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DAREDEVIL wrote: | Whoa oopss!! sorry I made a mistake by writting that part of Frank Miller, well I was dpoiong some homewrok at the same time I post taht here so sorry bout the mistake, I meant to write Brian Bendis. |
yeah, but honestly dude, how many times can you revamp/retell an origin story.
Frank Miller did it once, then Jeph Loeb added more details to Stan Lee's version. Plus there are the slight variations in the UU version about the circumstances under which Elektra and Matt met.
You can't sqeeze anymore variation and/or details out of this story than what's been sqeezed out of it already.
Honestly, cuz i'm just miffed everytime someone says they want to see it re-done, what's aspects of DD's begining would you like to see looked at in a different light? _________________ The world of Dial-Up Net SUCKS!!!! |
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DAREDEVIL Flying Blind
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well I dont know which aspect, frankly I dont care about the aspects, maybe the reason I want to see it redone its to see if they can squeez more aspects to the other retelling stories, this is an opinion I dont see why people get anoyed with this anyway. |
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Goddess0Whim Fall From Grace
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 410 Location: Central, NYS
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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DAREDEVIL wrote: | Well I dont know which aspect, frankly I dont care about the aspects, maybe the reason I want to see it redone its to see if they can squeez more aspects to the other retelling stories, this is an opinion I dont see why people get anoyed with this anyway. |
i'm not annoyed, i'm just puzzled.
see, when i think more aspects i think along the lines of a flash-back story like Yellow, or even Redemption, that tells us something we haven't know before, but fits into a past time frame or mood.
so when you someone says "retell" i automatically think "how the heck can you reword that again?"
so now i get it, it's all good _________________ The world of Dial-Up Net SUCKS!!!! |
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DAREDEVIL Flying Blind
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well then its all good, wlad to hear that, I'll try to specify more next time on my posts. |
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ozddzealot Playing to the Camera
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 126 Location: Timor Leste
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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no so many reasons why but ther've all been mentioned
mark _________________ batlin jack was not a thug |
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