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zminusx · Playing to the Camera Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 151

I think it really depends on the storyline used.

There could very well be an interesting DD mini series that would fit under "MAX"...

Darediva · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:34 am Post subject:

I have to vote no. No point. Don't want more violence. I already know enough swear words to recognize #$%^ when I see it.
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hellpussy · Flying Blind Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 84

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The Privateer · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:36 am Post subject:

hellpussy · Flying Blind Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 84

DD now is very tame.

A MAX title doesn't have to be hundred issues. Just a short mini, say 1-6.

DD by nature is a violent character. Not a killing machine like the Punisher.

I would like to see a harshness to DD that was touched upon by Frank Millar and others.

I think Marvel should up the ante of violence and also some sex in DD.

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Top_Quality · Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

I LOVE MAX! i love the punisher series, and i think a small mini series for DD would be great! it will just add another face to DD
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The Privateer · Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:16 am Post subject:

ourchair · Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:17 am Post subject:

For some reason, I read this subject as if DD would be MOVED to MAX rather than have another title run alongside the current Knights series.

I'm pretty much on the same page with Privateer here. I probably wouldn't mind a DD MAX title, but it doesn't feel so necessary.

Some people believe that the MAX imprint is just a license for profanity and violence, but I don't believe that is the case. It's not violence but TONE that makes the MAX imprint. Supreme Power is written in such a cynical tone while Alias portrayed such a self-destructive individual that they had no other place but MAX.

Thus, the only time DD would need the MAX label is if the violence really needs to be so graphic as to depict vivisected internal organs, explicit nudity and harsh language. And those are usually only needed in books like WE3, and never seem to be called for in Daredevil.

So DD, until Mark Millar starts writing your book, stay off the MAX.
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hellpussy · Flying Blind Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 84

The Privateer · Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:39 am Post subject:

I have only read Mark Millar's Ultimates both all vol#1 and Vol#2 to date and found him to be nothing short of excellent. I didn't find him predictable, in fact the end of vol. 1 of Ultimates, just got better and better and had a great climax (Does that sound dirty to you...?!) issue.

I still do not think that DD needs a MAX, even to cover HellPussy's subjects. MK has never held back a story with content restrictions.

All those who want a DD MAX story, I think are rather just hoping for another DD mini-series rather than a MAX rated subject. DD is not a MAX topic, if the content of DD warranted a MAX treatment, I would be concerned that it was gratuitous. How would a Fantastic Four MAX series sit? That would be uncalled for as well.

I am all for more DD mini-series or on-going series, but MAX would not offer anything to DD, violence, sex langauge etc that MK doesn't allow the writers to convey to the readers already.
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JR · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 343

Millar is the definition of hit or miss. He has the capacity to write some great comics. It seems he is at his best when writing tales that encompass earth shattering crisis and such, and then has trouble writing less grandiose stories. Kind of like an early Grant Morrison.

As for DD Max, I can't imagine it being well done, which is my major problem. I think whoever got the task of writing it would make it an excuse to look at Elektra's boobs more than tell us a good gritty story. As evidence of this, look at anything Chuck Austen has done for Max.

Does anyone actually know if there are other Max titles than Ennis' Punisher? I think all the other ones failed rather miserably. I have my doubts they will be trying to revamp it anytime soon, especially now with Vertigo being pushed again.

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The Privateer · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:

Previous MAX titles:
Fury
Luke Cage
War Machine
Alias

Current:
Punisher
Supreme Power
Doctor Spectrum

I have all of Alias, but not read them yet, and all the Punisher MAX to date. Punisher is excellent use of the MAX title. DD would not.
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Nick MB · Flying Blind Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 5

I don't think an ongoing DD MAX title is needed, but if someone has a specific story to tell that required the extra freedom, a mini-series would be buyable.

I'd like to dispute the "MAX should be shut down because it isn't Vertigo" thing... The two lines have nothing in common except adult content. The MAX line is superheroes for mature readers, Vertigo has no superheroes at all. I think the MAX line should be an option, at least. I wouldn't want to see Marvel pumping out thousands of them for the sake of it, but a small number of titles which do require the Adults Only rating should have a place to go.

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