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WHO WILL BE HULK 2 VILLAIN
A=THE LEADER
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B= THE ABOMINATION
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forrest wrote:
Yep, I've seen both. In fact, I own The Game and I think it's insane! This was made back before every other movie had a surprise ending. The idea of an agency that would play such sick games on people is fun. So is the idea of people who would (ultimately) consider these games fun. In that regard, I'm reminded of Total Recall. I honestly never saw either Michael Douglas or Sean Penn in roles I liked before The Game. (Later, I saw Penn in "I Am Sam" and I was completely blown away!) This was definitely my favorite Fincher movie. I recently found out that he did "Panic Room," which I have not seen, but now I might.

I too was surprised at Payback. First off, the advertisements made it seem like a much simplier action movie. Second, it was based on a Stephan King book (under his alterego "Bachman"). Third, it was Mel Gibson. (No offense, Mel.) Despite all these things, it turned out to be a very interesting movie. I only saw it once. I should watch it again when I get back to the states (I'm in Budapest for the next three weeks).

While we're on this list of crazy movies, have you ever seen Minority Report? Geez was that good!!! Also, of course Blade Runner (director's cut). And I'm a big fan of Runaway Jury, although the "surprise" ending was a little cheesy.


I had never thought of The Game as starting a genre, but I think that you are right. Sixth Sense followed not long after and that really started the craze. Your comment about Total Recall, it has been getting all these great Sci-fi reviews now its had a DC version, but it was just a futurist Arnie actioner at the time. Perhaps it was ahead of its time, Doug Quaid, Johnny Cab and Sharon Stone as his bitch wife!

I will hold you on the Michael Douglas & Sean Penn roles though, how can you not like MD in Romancing the Stone. Jack T Colton, "what's the 'T' stand for?", "Trustworthy.", jumping down that hill with his pump action in the holster on his back, Pepe the little mule and Joan Wilder! Not going to win any oscars, but a good post-Indy romp, I think. He is also good in Black Rain, and without sounding like a girl, he is quite sweet as Andrew shepherd in the American President.

Sean Penn, yes, I'd agree with that one, he was OK-ish in U-turn, but he should have been a rogue-ih double dealer, but was actually a bit cowardly, a missed opportunity there I felt. He was good as the drugged up lawyer in Carlito's way and i won't even mention his role in Who's that Girl?!

I have the 2-dics of Minority report, I had it off my gran two years ago for Xmas! I really enjoyed it, it has got a great DTS soundtrack if you have any home cinema stuff, it was a good mainstream movie that actually has a DTS soundtrack as well. I loved the idea and Tom Cruise lapped up the role, Farrell wasn't an arse for once in a film as well. I thought that it was going to end about 3/4 hr before it actually did, when they got to the room and proved it wasn't him etc. That was a good twist for me, as I didn't want it to end it was a pleasant surprise.

As regards Blade runner, I have seen it once, I have been borrowing my brother-in-law's copy for ages and never watched it, a true classic that I should really watch again. I know that I will love it now I am old enough to appreciate it.

Runaway Jury, I bought it from a petrol station (gas station to you) for £3.99, I haven't seen it yet, but Rachel weisz always floats my boat so it must be worth it. I am also a Grisham book fan, though it is one of the few that I haven't read, but most of the screen adaptions have been poor. The Firm is a great book, but the film stinks a little.

Do you like Tarantino? I always think that he is a film lovers director, I always feel that he enjoys films and brings this in to the movies he does. Other greats that you must see if you haven't already: High fidelity (book is even better, and the character is so like me it is comforting, I always dream of living High Fidelity but in a comic shop!), Ronin, American Beauty, Leon, Magnolia, Man on fire, Last Man Standing, Fletch, Maltese Falcon, and the list goes on. My film tastes are really diverse, love action, thrillers, swash bucklers, comedies etc, don't like horror at all, you could count on one hand the amount of horror films I have seen!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Privateer wrote:
Do you like Tarantino? I always think that he is a film lovers director, I always feel that he enjoys films and brings this in to the movies he does. Other greats that you must see if you haven't already: High fidelity (book is even better, and the character is so like me it is comforting, I always dream of living High Fidelity but in a comic shop!), Ronin, American Beauty, Leon, Magnolia, Man on fire, Last Man Standing, Fletch, Maltese Falcon, and the list goes on. My film tastes are really diverse, love action, thrillers, swash bucklers, comedies etc, don't like horror at all, you could count on one hand the amount of horror films I have seen!


Yep, I like Tarantino. He brings great energy to everything he does. My favorite Tarantino has long been Jackie Brown. I can just never cease to be amazed at the actors in that movie!

High Fidelity was OK. I loved Jack Black in that movie! You're right, the book seems much better (I'd only read the first half). I like both the book and movie "About a Boy" infinitely better.

Ronin, Fletch, Maltese Falcon: Yep.

American Beauty: Yep, and it actually gets worse everytime I see it. Don't get me wrong, I love Kevin Spacey in that movie, but I find it a film that is easy to get sick of.

Leon: No and I can't even think what this is.

Magnolia: Yep, I was dissappointed. I thought it was too artsy without any real point. Don't get me wrong, I was long a David Lynch fan, etc. This one just did push my buttons.

Man on Fire: WOW!!! So good!!! I want Tony Scott to direct my wedding!

Last Man Standing: No, but I always wanted to when it came about. Then, I just forgot. Willis can be hardcore sometimes. I think Ebert or Siskle bashed it and I just didn't have the motivation to see it anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forrest wrote:
Yep, I like Tarantino. He brings great energy to everything he does. My favorite Tarantino has long been Jackie Brown. I can just never cease to be amazed at the actors in that movie!
I have the DVD but have actually only seen this at the cinema, I must watch this again.

Forrest wrote:
High Fidelity was OK. I loved Jack Black in that movie! You're right, the book seems much better (I'd only read the first half). I like both the book and movie "About a Boy" infinitely better.
HF is awesome, I totally get John Cusack in this film, I seem to have some of the nuerotic hang ups that he has, I have connected with this character in so many levels it makes me feel better that I am sure that there must be others with these hang-ups too!

Forrest wrote:
American Beauty: Yep, and it actually gets worse everytime I see it. Don't get me wrong, I love Kevin Spacey in that movie, but I find it a film that is easy to get sick of.
I haven't seen this for a while, so it will be fresh, amazing and thought provoking as ever when I see it. It is one of those films, that at the start you think that the girl in it (Mena Suvari) is ok, then come the end of the film she is gorgeous. I love it how she is totally deconstructed by the end of the film, the bubble is burst, it is such a great film.

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Leon: No and I can't even think what this is.
Your tongue is in your cheek right? 1994 Jean Reno, Natalie Portman, Gary Oldman and Danny "I'm safer than a bank, cause no one robs old Tony" Aiello all star, directed by Luc Besson. French Italian hitman in a beany hat and circular glasses, drinks milk and cares his pot plant? Takes in Natalie Portman and starts to train her as hit-woman after Gary Oldman's drugged up cop shoots up her whole family? You have versione longue in the states, this includes more indictation of a the blossoming relationship between Leon and his 12 year old accomplice, we only have the bog-standard version. Rumoured to be an anniversary edition out soon. Go watch, but you must have seen this, Besson took the character that he created for La Femme Nikita, the Caretaker towards the end of the film, and created Leon.


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Magnolia: Yep, I was dissappointed. I thought it was too artsy without any real point. Don't get me wrong, I was long a David Lynch fan, etc. This one just did push my buttons.
I buy alot of sound tracks as they are great "mood" music for entertaining when you have friends round to dinner etc, the Magnolia soundtrack is one of our favourites. Good long drawn out emotional film, so many tragic characters, great acting through out and Aimee Mann's score is perfect throughout.

Forrest wrote:
Man on Fire: WOW!!! So good!!! I want Tony Scott to direct my wedding!
I only saw this the other week, found the 2 disc DVD in the supermarket for £9.99. Loved every minute, shame about the ending, but I enjoyed the twist, "She calls her bear Creasy"! I loved the rampage to find the kidnappers, I wish the Denzel had more of these rolls in his career, he bought that desparate passion to the role.

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Last Man Standing: No, but I always wanted to when it came about. Then, I just forgot. Willis can be hardcore sometimes. I think Ebert or Siskle bashed it and I just didn't have the motivation to see it anyway.
An un-ashamed re-make of Fistful of Dollars, if you like Fistful and the Untouchables (who doesn't, "They pull a knife, you pull a gun!"), then this is unmissable viewing. I love films with bullets flying, this is full of Bruce Willis being a moody, secretive bad ass unloading clip after clip from two well used Colt 1911 A1's. Great film, very good atmospheric sound track by Ry Cooder as well. Walter Hill directs, who is always good for some good action, he directed Southern Comfort if you have seen that one, Powers Boothe in the bayous, a bit like Deliverance.

By the way, I'm glad that I am not the only one who loves Fletch, I have seen it some many times, it is still so funny, Chevy Chase is god! "Arnold J Babbar, isn't there a children's elephant called Babar?"
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Forrest wrote:
Leon: No and I can't even think what this is.
Your tongue is in your cheek right? 1994 Jean Reno, Natalie Portman, Gary Oldman and Danny "I'm safer than a bank, cause no one robs old Tony" Aiello all star, directed by Luc Besson. French Italian hitman in a beany hat and circular glasses, drinks milk and cares his pot plant? Takes in Natalie Portman and starts to train her as hit-woman after Gary Oldman's drugged up cop shoots up her whole family? You have versione longue in the states, this includes more indictation of a the blossoming relationship between Leon and his 12 year old accomplice, we only have the bog-standard version. Rumoured to be an anniversary edition out soon. Go watch, but you must have seen this, Besson took the character that he created for La Femme Nikita, the Caretaker towards the end of the film, and created Leon.


Nope, tongue out of cheek, I never saw this nor had I heard about this movie. Although, I have no clue why I never heard about it. Natalie Portman in 94? She was about 19 for Star Wars Episode I and that was the first I'd ever heard about her. Was she one of those brilliant child actors? ...Well, she's not that stellar now, but with a good director she can be fun. (i.e. Garden State... actually all I know is I'm a straight dude but I'd be Zach Braff's love slave. The man is brilliant!) Plus, I like Luc Besson, but I haven't watched one of his films since the 90's. I own Le Femme Nikita. (Wasn't it creepy when they pour acid on the body in the bathtub?) I should hunt down Leon when I get back to the states.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forrest wrote:
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Forrest wrote:
Leon: No and I can't even think what this is.
Your tongue is in your cheek right? 1994 Jean Reno, Natalie Portman, Gary Oldman and Danny "I'm safer than a bank, cause no one robs old Tony" Aiello all star, directed by Luc Besson. French Italian hitman in a beany hat and circular glasses, drinks milk and cares his pot plant? Takes in Natalie Portman and starts to train her as hit-woman after Gary Oldman's drugged up cop shoots up her whole family? You have versione longue in the states, this includes more indictation of a the blossoming relationship between Leon and his 12 year old accomplice, we only have the bog-standard version. Rumoured to be an anniversary edition out soon. Go watch, but you must have seen this, Besson took the character that he created for La Femme Nikita, the Caretaker towards the end of the film, and created Leon.


Nope, tongue out of cheek, I never saw this nor had I heard about this movie. Although, I have no clue why I never heard about it. Natalie Portman in 94? She was about 19 for Star Wars Episode I and that was the first I'd ever heard about her. Was she one of those brilliant child actors? ...Well, she's not that stellar now, but with a good director she can be fun. (i.e. Garden State... actually all I know is I'm a straight dude but I'd be Zach Braff's love slave. The man is brilliant!) Plus, I like Luc Besson, but I haven't watched one of his films since the 90's. I own Le Femme Nikita. (Wasn't it creepy when they pour acid on the body in the bathtub?) I should hunt down Leon when I get back to the states.


Did you say you were in Budapest? If its someone else sorry, but whenever you can, you must buy this film ASAP. You clearly appreciate a good film and you have ticked all the boxes from Besson and La Femme Nikita. Please, please please let me know when you have seen this, it will be one of those things that you will be eternally grateful that you have seen this film.

I have found this for you, I'm sure that you can find it cheaper, but go for this version, I only have the vanilla copy, but will be upgrading at some point.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0006GVJEE/qid=1122404490/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/104-0136817-6917504?v=glance&s=dvd

As regards Nat Portman, as you say she was in Star Wars, I first saw her in Leon, she was then in Heat, Michael Mann, Pacino & De niro etc. Can't think of much else, I think that she is at Uni studying as well as acting. She looks gorgeous in Closer, but I am yet to see that.

I won't say anymore on Leon, you must see, you will love it and won't believe that you have never seen it before. I am thinking about other Besson films, he has been producing alot recently, he is something to do with The Transporter, Jason Statham, and Transporter 2. He directed Fifth Element of course, and some other earlier films in French language, Subway (I think) with Chris Lambert and Taxi (I think?)

You must see Leon!!

Go do your research and whet your appetite!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I'm in Budapest for a while.

The Privateer wrote:
As regards Nat Portman, as you say she was in Star Wars, I first saw her in Leon, she was then in Heat, Michael Mann, Pacino & De niro etc. Can't think of much else, I think that she is at Uni studying as well as acting. She looks gorgeous in Closer, but I am yet to see that.


I loved Heat and I didn't know she was in it. Closer was absolutely worthless in my opinion.

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He directed Fifth Element of course, and some other earlier films in French language, Subway (I think) with Chris Lambert and Taxi (I think?)


I didn't like Subway. Then again I don't like Lambert. Also, I didn't like Fifth Element. Then again I don't like Milla Jovovich. Before I saw "Messanger" I was stoked because I love the story of Joan of Arc, etc. When I saw it, it was just one big yawn fest mixed with crazy artsy nonsense and Jovovich made it even worse.

So, I guess I've seen more Besson then I thought and I'm not a big fan. It looks like he does some stuff that I love (i.e. Le Femme Nikita), but I initially mistook him for doing "Blue," which he didn't and I never realized that he did so many movies that I didn't like (Messanger, Fifth Element, etc.). Still, I'm going to check out Leon because it sounds fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forrest, we seem to have taken over this thread, sorry for those (if anyone!) who cares about Hulk 2 villains etc.

What do you think to starting a thread (I have loads of irrelevant ideas for off topic threads) about lame movies that we really love but shouldn't. We all must have a favourite awful movie, do you think that would be a decent thread?
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Back to the original question, I think Abomination would be a good one. He's the only real match for the Hulk.
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