Daredevil Message Board

[globalhonored]

Liefeld I could definitely do without but Dillon and Quietly? Steve Dillon is among my top ten faves as his Punisher is the definitive version IMO and I like a lot of Quietly stuff too, especially Flex Mentallo though I don't believe him to be the best in comics like many praise him as (JH Williams III, Mike Allred or Darwyn Cooke...maybe David Aja would be my choices for that title.)

Liefeld's era is long past and looked down upon these days. As a writer or "creator" he often copied established characters and Liefeldized their looks, putting them in books with similar plots and little story. Though at the time (early 90s) his style sold millions and was "IT." His Cable (the original Marvel one) was the hottest character in comics for a while. Youngblood sold bunches...but yeah, that era has passed. Is he as bad as many make him out to be now? Prob not...in fact I am interested to see his current work as an artist but as for this poll, mark me as a nah. Many artists struggle with feet, that's the beauty of the chopped off panel boxes!

[DarkKnightJared]

I'm pretty sure I can draw better then Liefeld--and I'm a complete amateur still trying to get a grasp at the basics.

[The Mast]

I try not to hate on Liefield so much because he co-created the character I love almost as much as Daredevil, Deadpool.

I loved his early Deadpool, but then...I was looking at his more recent Deadpool work and realised: "Oh wait, he's terribly **** at all this.".

I liked his Deadpool even when I hated all his other work, because everyone has sunken-cheek syndrome and the backgrounds are horrid.

Definitely off the Liefield train.

[acnelson]

[baker]

I love Frank Quitely. Hate Steve Dillon. Used to love Rob Liefeld.

[PlanBFromOuterSpace]

Liefeld's biggest problem is that he hasn't really improved in any noticeable way in the last 20 years. All of the problems that were there in the beginning are STILL there. The only improvements I've seen in connection with his work have been the coloring, and maybe some of the inking, but that's someone else cleaning up his mess. He's also a pretty pathetic visual storyteller. Pretty much everything's a splash page. I think that all of the early Image guys were exposed a bit when they no longer had to answer to editors, when they became their own bosses, and Liefeld was probably the worst.

Anyone notice that his work usually doesn't even HAVE backgrounds? There will be like a 6-page fight scene that takes place on what is essentially a blank page. I also have no idea what he's thinking with his layouts either, as even though his characters appear in panels by themselves (again, no backgrounds), they're often out of frame or too close to one side or another of the panel, like something else SHOULD be there. Has anyone seen that Image United series? The one where all of the non-Jim Lee Image creators are participating, with the gimmick being that they're all drawing their individual characters in the comic? I swear, if you remove everyone else's artwork, leaving only Liefeld's work behind, it STILL doesn't look any different than your average Liefeld comic! HA!

Also, I've loved Dillon since Preacher, and he HAS somewhat gotten over his case of everyone-looks-the-same-itis (his current Punisher run is some of his best stuff), but I've never liked him all that much on just straight superhero stuff. It's nice to see him getting higher-profile work though in recent years. As far as Quitely is concerned, I've never thought that his art was so bad really, and as a visual storyteller he's pretty great, but more often than not his faces ARE pretty fugly.