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[Ash-n-Bone]

So my thoughts...

Cox has done an incredible job as Matt, probably the single best screen interpretation of a Marvel character thus far. Awesome job.

As much as I wanted to love Foggy, I also felt like Henson came off as an actor reading lines, rather than becoming the character. I hope he gets better.

DAW's reimagining of Karen Page is great, very modern, far from strictly being damsel in distress.

And for what we've seen from the villains, I think it's pretty awesome. Madame Gao was far creepier than I expected.

As for the overall episode. Very impressive, solid start. Nothing mind blowing...yet. But already the best thing Marvel has ever put out.

[Dayle88]

I also watched the first episode twice ha ha. It's amazing, I thought everything was spot on. Matt and Foggy were great together. The almost tunnel vision and sound to show Matt's focus was a good way of showing his abilities. I agree above, it has that Maleev style somehow. I'm going to watch the rest of the show, read the Bendis run and go back to the show. Seems like nice triple threat of Daredevil.

[Mike Murdock]

I wrote the reviews for the first three and a half episodes last night, but I figure I'd post them now (first one is long, sorry):

I promised myself I'd try and pace myself with this. Originally, I said I'd only watch one episode a night. The hope being I could space it out until Age of Ultron but the minimum was at least two weeks. At a minimum, I said I'd write a review after each episode. After episode one, that alone might be a stretch. But let's try it (commenting without looking at the thread because it's cutting down on valuable show-watching time). So I'll make a Manhattan and get started. As an aside, a Manhattan is going to be my unofficial drink of Daredevil. For one, it's a whiskey drink and a non-mixer drink, which feels more like a traditional lawyer drink (in reality, lawyers learned to drink in Law School, so they'll drink anything). Second, Manhattan is the home of Daredevil. Third, the touch of rose can mirror his red final costume (hopefully). I took notes because I realize I'm not going to remember everything. The goal is to make those notes into something coherent (I've been writing Daredevil comic reviews and I usually stop to comment as I go, but there's no way this is happening here).

The opening works well. While I probably would have preferred to build up to it a bit (especially echoing MWOF by Matt being made fun of by being called Daredevil prior to that), I think the opening with the "parental trouble instinct" a la Broadchurch in full effect was quite good. Certainly, the vision fading away was quite powerful. I hope they return to that (maybe with Matt in a hospital bed and a nurse visiting him). The confession worked. They had a good compromise of Guardian Devil and the criticism of that. Matt identifies himself as a Catholic, but it's been a long time since he had gone (in fact, his grandmother rather than his father being the true Catholic rings true to my memory being raised Catholic). The segue to his father was wonderful. I figure we'll return to this conversation.

The first fight was awesome. Like holy Jesus it was awesome. I almost stopped watching to just squeel about how great it was. It's clear it's drawn heavily from Man Without Fear (even the parts that were unusually grim for Marvel with human trafficking), but it's simplified and to the point. More importantly, it's a good mix of brutal fighting and acrobatic fighting; combining all styles Daredevil is known for. It has all the tricks, including the billy club throw. Good use of sound, although it's much easier to dodge a gun when he's unnecessarily cocking it every single time. The second fight with the knife did a better job with sound and dodging there.

The characters - I'm loving Foggy. He does a wonderful job of being goofy and likable while still seeming reasonably competent (for being a lawyer for seven hours). Like his conversation with the cop (when you hang up a shingle, you need to work all angles). I'm with Foggy on the innocent/guilty debate, but I'm curious to see how they handle that going forward. I love the Melvin Potter insanity angle in the comics. I hope they explore that, since it's a client who did technically do what he's accused of. Maybe they could have Foggy convince Matt that this counts under his rules. When Foggy says that Matt always finds the beautiful women and it's trouble for him, I wonder if that's an Elektra reference.

I like the take on Karen. It does a good job of drawing them into the mystery and the actress really sells her torment (the ligature marks help too). I will do my usual PSA that you should never sleep with a client, but I'll not dwell on it. The legal aspects (and strategic) aspects are interesting to discuss, but I won't dwell on it right now. Suffice it to say, for a murder case, they were quite lucky. But there were a lot of things not adding up, which helped. I do like that they mentioned Brady material (the duty of prosecutors to disclose information helpful to the defense) without needing to explain it to the audience (since both characters were already familiar with it). It essentially operated as technobabble for lawyers but was more or less accurate.

I think it's obvious Wesley is going to be awesome, just from his first scene. He is a mix of creepy and disciplined. He's just a businessman, but in a brutal business. But he's got a fun sarcastic side. Leeland Owlsley isn't as good, but I love the other side of superheroes he brings up. It appears the Avengers are good for business. Let's see how Daredevil goes. I also loved the Chechnyan kidnap preschool line.

Other stray thoughts:
It's raining a lot. Let's see if that impacts things like in the comics. Loved the knife fight, glad the guy choked by the chain didn't die, I'd like to think the people manufacturing heroin (cocaine?) were hired because they were blind rather than blinded. Finally, when Matt said "it's easy when you're client is innocent": No it isn't. It's really, friggin' hard. It's so stressful (I don't like anyone getting convicted when the case isn't proven, but it's a feeling of sadness rather than anger if an innocent person is found guilty).

Overall, it was great. I can't believe I've spent this long writing, I need to get back to watching. Five Stars.
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[JoeWithoutFear]

So, I wasn't even planning to watch this show. Sure, DD is my 2nd fave super hero at the moment, but, in my experience, "the movie (TV here) version" of just about anything is inferior.

That is not necessarily true of the MCU. Marvel Studios has done a truly amazing job with all of their properties. I just wasn't sure it would carry over to TV because so far their choices in TV shows have been mind-numbingly unappealing (Agents of Shield?! Agent Carter!?!).

So, yea, I didn't even plan to watch Daredevil. But, my wife is out of town this weekend and so I thought I would check it out while I ate dinner last night.

........7 episodes later.........

HOLY COW!!!! I'm blown away. I won't talk about anything from the other episodes (this is an ep1 thread after all). But, I'm just so impressed. All around. I love how the fighting is handled. The cinematography is impeccable. The dialogue is very good for something comic-related. And this is by far the most I've ever liked Foggy. In the comics Foggy has always felt like a weight holding down the series. In this show, Foggy is so likable and entertaining. Well done, that guy from Mighty Ducks!! Well done!!

My ONE gripe is I don't like when the show gets overly brutal or leans towards "torture porn." I don't like that one bit. However, it seems like a small enough part of the show that it won't ruin things for me.

CONSIDER ME ON BOARD!!! WOW!!!

[Kuljit Mithra]

"Into the Ring"

I'm not as eloquent as all of you, so I'll just share some of the notes I wrote down quickly as I watched.

-young Matt and Jack are fun to watch
-is Farnum a nod to Masked Marauder?
-the fight in the rain is great, sounds great
-Fogwell's Gym!
-wonder if Mahoney will be used later

But seriously, wasn't this a great start?
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[Darediva]

This was an epic start. Wow. I'm like Dave Wallace in that 10 minutes in I was hooked. The first fight around the shipping containers looked like how DD would do it. Loved the cattle prod being used as a billy club to knock those guys around.

The meetup high above the city was interesting to show the diversity of the bad guys involved. A good setup. Wesley is so sophisticated on one hand, so sleazy on the other. Perfect pitch.

Wish I had a better sound system. The fight in the rain was really designed well. I liked the transition from the fight to Jack and Matt and then back again.

I liked the way they brought Karen into the story. A little foreshadowing about the love triangle angle in the dinner scene. Had to wonder where the kitchen is in the office, since that was where they were eating. Maybe across the hall, wherever that tea came from? No worries! Suspend that disbelief!

I'll admit when I first heard of the casting, I thought Charlie Cox would be too slight in build to play this part without a lot of camera angle work. But he looks like a gymnast, and really good in that skin tight black shirt with the red stitching on the shoulders.

The Alex Maleev Matt Murdock comes right through in Charlie Cox. Great casting all around, I think.
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Those who throw dirt merely lose ground.

[kernindrama]

It seems like Daredevil is being talked about everywhere. The comic/random podcast i listen to even mentioned it. I found the soundcloud link if you want to listen.

https://soundcloud.com/randomocity-podcast-network/randomocity-23-the-zen-of-strawberry-pop-tarts

[darematt]

A shocking first chapter. We begin to see how it performs Daredevil and other secondary characters (Karen, Foggy, Wesley).
Both civil scenes such as masking, Charlie is fantastic. The conversation Matt and Karen at the apartment and how to listen to the heartbeat is very well done.
The choreography of the fight against Rance/DD is very good, perhaps not convinced me that will cost both defeat. Daredevil is a type with special skills and Rance is a trained bully, simply.

Un primer capítulo impactante. Comenzamos a ver como actúa Daredevil y el resto de personajes secundarios (Karen, Foggy, Wesley).
Tanto las escenas de civil como las de enmascarado, Charlie Está fantástico. La conversación de Matt y Karen en el apartamento y la manera de escuchar los latidos está muy bien hecha.
La coreografía de la pelea de DD contra Rance es muy buena, quizá lo que no me convenció fue que le costará tanto derrotarlo. Daredevil es un tipo con unas habilidades especiales y Rance es un matón entrenado, simplemente.