Daredevil Message Board

[vtsoxfan7]

A couple of weeks ago a friend of mine told me about a program he ran into while scouring the internet. It's called cdisplay and allows you to scroll through pages of comics/magazines/really whatever has been saved in it's format.

He stumbled upon it while trying to track down a bunch of Civil War stuff (I told him he really only needed the main title and Frontline - in my opinion - but he's a completist).

Anyway, getting to my point, we were hanging out discussing various comics and their storylines the other night and knowing that I'm a big Daredevil fan, handed me a burned DVD. I popped it into my computer and was amazed to see that he had found the ENTIRE run of volume one and all of volume 2 through 'The Murdock Papers'. I'm not too worried about vol. 2 because I've got it in it's entirety in one format or another but I'm REALLY psyched to get the chance to read through volume 1 in it's entirety!

I'm attempting to hold off the urge to read certain storylines that I've heard so much about here (outside of the great Miller stuff I've read many times already) and trying to force myself to read them sequentially. It will most likely take me quite a while to accomplish this although I've got a little bit of a head start from reading Essentials 1-3.

I haven't done much searching myself, but cdisplay is a free download (just do a google search) and my friend said he's found quite a few monstrous comic collections through torrent searches.

I'm still a big supporter of adding the actual book to my collection (I have this thing about pride of ownership), but this will at least allow me to read through alot of issues that I won't ever add to my collection due to what they cost these days!
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[Isaac]

Who hasn't heard about CDisplay here? How do you think I can read Daredevil from Russia or Spain...? Then I order the HC's, and I'm pretty psyched they don't publish them no more.

[Francesco]

[Isaac]

[Gloria]

[Francesco]

[Gloria]

Eh, I buy both the Spanish Issues and the US ones: I'm not under the Jolly Roger flag!

I have never downloaded any stuff, prior to buying the Us issue i may see the usual (and fully legal) previews or reviews online, which come before I can get the actual issue.

Incidentally; i wouldn't mind Marvel giving the (suscription-only, of course) option to read the latest issue online. I am lucky to have a decently supplied store at reach, but not everyone may.
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Gloria
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[vtsoxfan7]

The main point of my post was that I have been given access to volume one in it's entirety and it will take me quite a while to read through all 380 issues. I guess I overshadowed that by saying how this was made possible as I don't have the financial ability to track down and collect all of these issues loose (as much as I really would like to).

I much prefer to have a copy in my hand. I buy my comics loose and in the case of my favorites (DD in particular) I pick up HCs or tpbs whichever are made available. One day down the line maybe I will have my student loans paid off and I can try to collect volume one. As of right now this is pretty much my only option to read through these older stories no matter how classic or terrible they may be!
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[Gloria]

vtsoxfan7,

Enjoy them (and this comes from a DD completist who tracks even the lesser, non-published-in-Spain DD second-hand issues in ebay)

Incidentally, if you like paper, earlier DD issues are partially collected in "Essential Daredevil" (3 books so far from early volume 1), and relevant stories and runs have been collected and are reprinted on a regular basis.
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Gloria
Devuélveme el rosario de mi madre y quédate con todo lo demás

"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[vtsoxfan7]

[Francesco]

[Gloria]

Having read vtsoxfan7 previous post, i think that he'll buy as much stuff as available. Some issues of Volume 1, until/if published within "Marvel Essentials", may not see the light of day again: not all the epoch of DD wera as memorable as the one we have in mind, so reprints may be out of the question, and some are very difficult to find even on ebay and similar e-marketplaces

incidentally and to put an example of how fanboy circulation of illegal material may acually boost the sales of legal material, I'd like to mention, the hugue success of Japanese (Manga) comics in Spain (and I think that it has happened the same in other countries)

It started thanks to ilegal versions of the comics: young aficionados who were curious about manga (of which very little material had been published in Spain), started to circulate photocopies of their favourite comics, creating a demand for non-published material which was noticed by our local comics publishers: This has lead to the -quite successful- official publication of a lot of Japanese... which would be unthinkable without a previous fansub movement.
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Gloria
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"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[Francesco]

It's a very peculiar example, because they had no immediate way to get those comics.

[Gloria]

Well, the most usual case was, either a photocopy of an illustration, or a few pages/photocopies from a comic (not the whole comic)... And sometimes, even drawings copied from those comics. Usually, they would get them from someone who knew somebody who was a neighbour of a person who had got it from a foreign store (English, American, French) and they would be spread among fans, and get increasingly known.

I recall getting fansub editions of Rumiko Takahashi's "Maison Ikkoku" after the Spanish edition was closed. The fansub kept alive the interest of the Spanish fans, and the series has been eventually re-published -by a legal publisher, I mean- in its entirety with success.

The curious thing is that the publisher got the collaboration (in translation and Japanese culture issues) from the guys publishing the fansub.

But then fansub -as opposed to fully-fledged piracy- don't operate on a profit basis. More on a "I love this series and I want the world to know" one. They are only too glad when those series get a legal edition.
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[harryhausen]

First, I didn't know about cdisplay, so thanks for the tip - it's really interesting and might, at least, be a good way to read some of the issues that aren't so good, but continue small aspects of the overall story.

Incidentally, I have cleaned up a few times on auctions of "lots" of volume 1 DD, scoring huge chunks (50 -75 issues at a time) for as little as $35-$40 - including the shipping. Just an idea. I just trade any dupliactes at my LCS.

Oh, and wave the Jolly Roger. The notion of "intellectual property" and "copyright" are both corporate nonsense, enriching publicly-owned corporations, not (the oftentimes dead) writers and artists of volume 1 DD. As creators who draw their stories from the zeitgeist, they should all be honored that we're so interested as to read their work - in any format. Besides, one would be buying these issues from comic shops or individuals on the internet and not Marvel or Annie Nocenti, anyway.