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brnsch666 · Flying Blind Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 1

This is my first post. Sorry it isn't on a positive note, I just need to get something off my chest. Brubakers DD isn't doing it for me. How come DD couldn't immediatly tell he was confronting Iron Fist in 87? It is eluded to that Matt doesn't want DD to be seen in Europe, yet he wears the costume there. He could have just worn a black suit or something. Everyone just seems to eat Brubakers stuff up, I just don't seem to be enjoying it as much as the hype said I should. Punisher's role was just a ridiculous plot devise, Matt was out of character teaming with him the way he did. It can be said that prison changed Matt, but he wasn't even there that long. This makes me miss Bendis on DD.

james castle · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject:

I agree. In fact, it's sort of stupid for DD to wear a costume at all. How would a bright red costume actually help him fighting crime? Surely a simple black costume makes more sense. Even if he did have a red costume, why in the world would he take the time to actually fashion little horns? What are they made of? Plastic? Where did he get the mold and the plastic to make such perfect little horns? More importantly why would he bother? Speaking of which, why would he bother putting the "DD" on his chest? Again, how does he even do that in the first place? Does he have some kind of silkscreening set up in his place? Don't people think it's weird that a blind guy has an interest in silk screening? Where does he get boots that match his pants?

Bru clearly sucks.
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Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Welcome to the board!

My 2 cents:

Darediva · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Darediva · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:

If "ridiculous plot devices" were the criteria for me not reading a comic book, I would not read ANY comic books...or watch many movies either. I believe that's why it's called fantasy or science fiction.

Beam me up, Scotty.
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fox_limbo · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 335

james castle · Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:

Acerbus · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:35 am Post subject:

It's been a great run so far, but I think the total reversal of Bendis' 'Out' concept was probably a misstep. I really liked the dynamic of him being outed by the press alot, but it wasn't until Murdock Papers, and maybe the attack by Typhoid Mary (and who could forget, the Yakuza?) a bit earlier that it began to really pay off. Brubaker basically wiped that slate clean, and zeroed out a monumental run on the comic.

I agree about the Punisher plot device, also. The Daredevil I know would figure out a way to escape and keep Frank behind bars somehow. Maybe use him to get out, then set a trap for him or some such. That seems a bit more cerebral and 'Daredevil-ish'.

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

I always seem to disagree with you. Razz

No offense, it's just comic opinion. Anyway:

train · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject:

MercifulAvatar · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Problems with Bru's DD

rgj · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject:

I wasn't going to post on this topic, but since it hasn't died I thought maybe I should. First, yes, 666's points are valid, namely the:

1) DD should have known it was Danny Rand in the costume, blocks before he got to him and
2) the wearing of the costume in Europe.

These were two observations I mentioned during the Current Issue of DD Review threads.

But, I guess you guys weren't paying attention because Bru actually commented on these things (among other things, like a closed casket at a funeral). Bru mentioned that sometimes writers have to eschew logic (like Matt chosing to wear the costume in Europe) in order to move a story along, but they never try to compromise the story.

Ultimately, I can forgive these lapses in logic because the stories were very good.

Still, yes, these lapses in story logic can be very distracting. For instance, if you had a story where the Chameleon was posing as a friend of Peter's, yet his spider sense didn't go off throughout the story and then the writer said it was omitted just so he could have a real boss story, well, that would take away from the story. This is kind of what happened with Matt not recognizing Danny. Sure, Bru can claim that his senses were "distracted." But, that would be rubbish. If Matt could concetrate enough to find Danny he should be able to identify him. But, as I said, I can look the other way because the story arc was good. Maybe not great, anymore, but still very good.

I can agree to disagree with Brubaker regarding some of the details. But, I can also agree that, so far, Bru has done a wonderful job on DAREDEVIL.

RGJ

MercifulAvatar · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject:

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

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