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Avengers911 · Flying Blind Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

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Acerbus · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:20 am Post subject:

The Hand. All of them.

Any time there's a scene with Daredevil on a rooftop fighting a billion Hand ninjas, I crap my pants. Fights with Elektra are also cool, but only because they are far less frequent.

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Non-powered criminals who are not the Kingpin

(E.g. Caviar killer, Rotgut, Gael, Punisher, etc.)
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Pete · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject:

Gael and Rotgut are great. But then O'Neil and Nocenti are great writers. I like a lot of the characters Nocenti came up with. DD facing 'street level' characters like the Wildboys always seem to work well.

As has been said before on here, DD's rogues gallery is full of potentially great characters that continually fail to live up to anything near that great potential. I still think the defining DD/Purple Man story has yet to be written, same for Mr Fear.

Even the Jester was great in his first few issues by Lee/Colan. Then you get someone like Bob Gale who uses the guy whilst showing a complete lack of understanding of what he's all about. Waste. Bendis used him and it wasn't too bad.

I always liked the way Deathstalker showed up as a kind of semi regular thorn in DD's side before Mckenzie/Miller killed him off for good.

Umm.. I haven't got a favourite. I know Stilts is miles better than Man-Bull though.

Neilan · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:

To me, the Kingpin is the number one Daredevil villain and has been used to great effect throughout the years, but is extremely overexposed. He was such a great DD villain that it seemed that he was the crutch, as was Bullseye, that a writer would lean on when he couldn't come up with a good idea. I'm glad that he's out of the country and hopefully won't be used for quite some time. Of course, over in Spidey's book, he currently has a slight? significance.

I very much enjoyed the Micah Sinn arc back in the Miller/O'Neil days, but that had more to do with the story, then the character himself. He was somewhat like an evil Kazar.

I thought Deathstalker was very cool and added a pulpish atmosphere to the stories. I remember feeling very frustrated when he first showed up because he wasn't steeped in reality (I know, why am I looking for realism in comic books?) and it took forever to find out what his 'deal' was. Yet when he was killed, I found myself missing him greatly.

The use of Purple Man in the Alias book, was absolutely chilling.

And Typhoid Mary, when used by Nocenti, was excellent.
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Dimetre · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject:

I agree with everything Neilan said about the Kingpin. I think it's fair to say he's Daredevil's number one villain, but thank God he's being given a rest for awhile.

Bullseye is, of course, great too, but I'm not crazy with the way he's been handled lately. Bendis made him too easy to beat. I won't touch a story involving "the new Thunderbolts." Bullseye's Greatest Hits was okay, but Daniel Way treats him more like a Punisher villain than a Daredevil villain. Put him back in his costume already too.

Which brings me to the Punisher. I really liked David Lapham's Daredevil vs. Punisher mini-series. Miller and Nocenti wrote some great stories with these two going at each other's throats. I certainly don't consider the Punisher a hero, and neither should Daredevil. And, since Matt is largely responsible for the Punisher breaking out of prison, I think Brubaker has got to write an encounter with these two pretty soon.

I also like Deathstalker, Typhoid and Sir. (Yes. You read that right.)

Neilan · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

Sir was ... interesting.

I am a huge fan of J.M. DeMatteis' work in Spider-Man. In fact he is probably my #1 favorite S-M writer (in the non-Stan Lee division). He's the one who wrote the DD stories with Sir. I think alot of people on this board have slammed his Daredevil work. I found his brief run on DD ambitious and decent but not nearly as good as the Spidey stuff. When done well, I'm a sucker for the heavy psychological stuff.
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Dimetre · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:12 am Post subject:

Neilan · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:49 am Post subject:

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Here's my cue to insert my 2 cents:

Chichester understood and expanded Matt/DD in ways that NO OTHER writer has yet achieved, especially in the use of DD's senses. If Chichester had stayed on the book for a few more years, it would be much, much, much better off for it. He always had resolution to the Jack Battlin' era but he was kicked out by editorial, partially due to the uberlame/uber90's Marvel Edge idea. Then, DeMatteis came in to write the worst DD stories ever written, hands down. Furthermore, DeMatteis's characterization of Matt/DD was perhaps the worst characterization of a major character that I have ever seen in Marvel/DC comics. (Far worse even than Reed Richards in Civil War.)

Again, just my two-cents. Razz

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james castle · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject:

Oh Forrest, you're being too hard on DeMattis. Matt having full blown multiple personality disorder made all sorts of sense. FULL BLOWN MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER. Do you know how crazy you have to be to have MPD? Very. Very, very, very. MPD is to the mental disorder world what some kind of crazy AIDS/cancer hybrid would be to the physical disease world.

And I forget, how did Matt get over it? Just kinda said "yeah, I've had a rough time" and that's it? Ridiculous.

Even from a broad perspective: who resolves a hijinxish "multiple Daredevils" storyline with the main character having a ridiculously serious mental disorder?

Crap,
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Neilan · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject:

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

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james castle · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:

I only read trades so I'm about a year away from getting my hands on DD #95. That said, I note that in the first time in a while DD is getting some "meh" reviews. One reviewer over at IGN openly frets about whether Bru hitting the reset button was a good idea. I worry too.

The fact of the matter is that Matt will always end up in Hells Kitchen practicing law at some point. At no point will Matt's Hell's Kitchen law days be over. If you accept that, as you should, then as far as I'm concerned the last thing you should want is Matt in Hell's Kitchen practicing law. A great deal of great DD stories have resulted from Matt's "normal" world being shook up. Born Again, Nocenti's run, Bru's early arcs and some of Bendis' stuff (although it was more "fish in poiso water" as opposed to "fish out of water") all concern Matt out of his element.

That said, the whole Batlin thing could have been cool. It would have been an opportunity to tell different kinds of DD stories. A look at Matt from a fresh perspective. Of course he would have been returned, as he always is, to his status quo eventually but we would have had some neat stories too.

There will always be enough Matt as Lawyer in Hells Kitchen stories. Those stories will always be told. Whatever stories Chichester had planned as part of the Batlin arc will never be told. And that's a shame.
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