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Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

So, just how excited are we for this one?

I'm going 5. This is the story I've been waiting to hear for ages! The preview art and the interviews I've read suggest that this mini is heading in the direction I'd like to see: minimal story time with an adult Matt and good old comic art (versus the modern "gritty" DD art of Maleev, Lark, Gaydos, etc.). I simply can't wait for this book!!! Very Happy

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rgj · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

I'm always on the fence when it comes to writers expanding on DD's history.

Don't get me wrong, I'm buying it, for sure, but I always worry that the story will end up betraying these great characters because some writer got a bright idea. Remember Joe Kelly and the linking of Typhoid with the prostitute and Bendis with his "Stick is baby Karen" crap. Still, these are lesser characters, Jack on the other hand, he's a major character in Matt's life. Jack and Maggie I feel are characters that should be handled very carefully.

I just hope that the story doesn't reveal something like Jack was chronically physically abusive to Matt or something. There was only one instance where Jack was shown hitting Matt and that was under Miller. And, it was only prevoked because Jack confronted his son about fighting, so the back handed slap he gave Matt was really related to how much Jack didn't want Matt to become like him. It was because he wanted his son to be a better man.

I think we've all wondered why Jack would basically commit suicide in the boxing ring. Why would he do that knowing the pain it would cause Matt? It couldn't have been something as simple and selfish as pride (as a boxer)?? Was there a greater good for winning the fight? A greater good that was worth leaving Matt without family? This would be great if it could be addressed, I just hope the writer doesn't crap on the decency that was at the core of the fighter that Jack was.
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train · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject:

i'm on the fence too. like, rgj, i'm planning on purchasing the book and i hope to be pleasantly suprised by the book. i don't really take exception with the ret-conning of characters (in fact, i really like DD/DP '97) but i do echo rgj's sentiments about jack murdock. i hope that they don't make him out to be a mindless abusive thug. time will tell i suppose.

MercifulAvatar · Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject:

I'll buy it.
And read it.
If Quesada can stay away, it might be good.
If not, it might suck.

Like the man said, "All shall be revealed."
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Darediva · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:19 am Post subject:

I'm looking forward to it quite a bit, just hoping that Jack doesn't get crapped on by the writer. The art for the story looks pretty good so far, and it's possible it could really be a good tale. I do hope so.
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Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

I'm not looking forward to it because whatever had to be said about Jack Murdock has already been said, and there's also the risk, nowadays common when a writer goes to explore DD's origins, to write something mediocre/disappointing.

Isaac · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject:

And I'm not looking forward to it, because I didn't like de work of the artist in Dylan Dog, but there the inking matched better. It has some manga-stiff I don't like, and the coloring doesn't help (since manga uses to be black and white, and so should it be).

james castle · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah, not looking forward to it. I have no idea who the writer/artist are. They certainly have no connection to DD that I'm aware of. Mini-series that are created to tackle "big issues" virtually always suck.

I sense suck.
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Neilan · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

In the right hands, I would very much look forward to gaining some insight into Matt's family, especially, Maggie. But I'm not looking forward to this mini. I expect it to disappoint. I believe the writer is Zeb Wells. I've only read a little of his work, all Spidey related, but I despised his stuff. He thinks he's funny, but his 'humor' is lost on me. Having said that, I'll be getting it, since it's Daredevil. I sure hope I'm wrong about it.
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tony2074 · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

this is something that could go either way, be really really bad, or be excellent.But as has been mentioned,you shouldn't mmess eith jack murdock as he is such a strong influence nad a big part of matts very being and the reasons he is who he is.
but in the hands of zeb wells? zeb wells? in the hands of a miller or bendis or even nocenti id be looking forward to it. at the moment, i really just don't want this to be so rubbish, it becomes a slight on the character.

but if its that bad, we could always just ignore it, eh?
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Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

tony2074 · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject:

good point, good point. Miller, nocenti or bendis would perhaps be too dark, but you've got to admit that they'd captur the gangster element ot the story well.

Zeb wells-the majority of stuff (as previously noted) was spidey, light hearted spidey. But hey. who knows, this could be the series that makes him?

Whatever-im sure we'll all be giving it at least a go.
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james castle · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject:

"What are you dense? Are you retarded or something? I'm the god damned Battling Jack Murdock."

It would be awesome.
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