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Dimetre · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:58 pm Post subject:

To be fair, I'm pretty sure everyone involved with this comic is aware of how awful this suit is. Notice the cover: It's all Owl's daughter, and features nary a stitch of Matt's red suit.

james castle · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:18 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

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I don't know or care whatever happens on DD from now on. Even without the completely idiotic idea of Matt becoming a colorful dumbass (because that's the point, not simply the stupid suit) for the heck of it, I'm sick of the way Waid writes this book. Sick of all the in-jokes, sick of the hamfisted "look mom, I'm not depressed!!!", sick of the uninteresting and convoluted villain plots. I'm tired of "look, I'm mentioning Twitter, google, facebook, I'm making the book so 2.0!"
I'm dropping this book until we get a new writer. Oh, and a new artist too. This one sucks and is not fit to draw my favorite character. There, I said it.

train · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:14 pm Post subject:

I don't know what to make of the issue. I respect Waid for throwing caution to the wind. I understand the concept that he was going for. If everyone knows MM is DD then why wear a mask? I felt like I did after I read the 'monster issue'. Completely unsatisfied.

I agree with most on the board, it's time for Waid to go.

On a related note, I have a theory on how the Marvel re-boot will play out. I can't remember where I read it, but one of the "Battleworld" components is the '92 X-men. What I think is going to happen, is each Marvel character will be rolled back to their respective high water mark. According to article that I read stated that the '92 X-men was the high point of sales for the book. I don't know if sales will be the defining factor on which to roll back the character to or if a creative factor will be considered as well. If I was making decisions, it would be the Clairemont/JR Jr. X-men, but that's just me. So my question to the board, is what would you consider to be the high water mark for Daredevil?

If I can find that article again, I'll post the link.

I think this is it

http://comicbook.com/2015/03/13/marvel-announces-x-men-92-secret-wars-series/

Darediva · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:03 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

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DesignDevil · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:33 am Post subject:

Kirsten's not worthy of a death at Bullseye's hands. She should trip and fall down an open manhole and break her neck.

Acerbus · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:03 pm Post subject:

The last time I posted... years ago... it was to express my desire for Mark Waid to go away.

The contrarian, self-aware retro/hipster thing had run its course within all of ten issues.

It is now March of 2015.
He is still on the book. (Though thankfully, from what I hear, not much longer) I bought every issue of this series until Waid stepped up to the plate with his Kesel 2.0 run. There's a massive, meteor crater-sized hole in my collection in the shape of Mark Waid. I think that speaks for itself.

To continue the Karl Kesel analog, Kesel's run by itself wasn't that bad. A fun little experiment. Not my favorite, but I can live with it. It's the maladies the book suffered in the wake of Karl Kesel bugging out to go write DC stuff that caused the real problems. That's when Daredevil really went off the rails with the Jack Battlin stuff. Until Waid, I considered this to be the all-time low point for the book, in fact.

I can see this coming from 9 blocks away. He's written the next guy into a corner. Whoever it is, can't take it anywhere but further down.

Marvel. I rarely ask for this, as continuity is a huge part of the appeal of the character. But hit the reset button. Hit it now.
Hit the reset button so hard, the janitors at the DC offices can feel the impact tremors.

lonerangerninjutsu · Flying Blind Joined: 10 Mar 2015 Posts: 4

Mike Murdock · Golden Age Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Posts: 1750

^ I'd say the high water mark was Born Again. Starting post Born Again would actually work quite well with Karen alive, but the Kingpin knowing Matt's identity. The only thing is whether Foggy should be on the loop or not. If they went post-Inferno/Purgatory/Paradiso, it would be Karl Kesel, which certainly wasn't the high water mark.

train · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:53 am Post subject:

I think we found something we can agree on, Mike. I think a rollback to just post- Born Again would be the best point to start over. We'll see if my theory is right.

Daredevil24 · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 367

Nightwing2001 · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:34 pm Post subject:

The more I think about it the more I think that the Mark Waid DD run will go down in history as the "Achy Breaky Heart/Who Let the Dogs Out" of DD comic book runs. Something that at first so many people loved and couldn't get enough of but felt that after awhile it had worn out its welcome and you got soooo sick of it you never wanted anything to do with it again. A moment of sobering clarity at the end of it for those who once loved it as "what the hell we're we thinking?!"

At least that's the analogy that I'm feeling these days about it.

admiralpetty · Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:01 pm Post subject:

The Message Board is currently in read-only mode, as the software is now out of date. Several features and pages have been removed. If/When I get time I intend to re-launch the board with updated software.