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Dragonbat
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| New interview with Charles Soule up at CBR: http://bit.ly/1DnPaul |
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Dimetre
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| Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| That interview reassures me that Soule's approach to Daredevil is different than the largely irreverent tone he took to She-Hulk. I'm looking forward to the first issue. |
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humanaccident
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OK so costume looks awesome, art looks good, back to gritty street level stuff instead of the cartoony style we have been used to the last few years, all good, but a couple of concerns -
1) Soule used to be a DA so now DD is DA,
2) the Apprentice is an imagrant who is fighting for his place in America, because Soule used to help people get into America.
Feels a bit like the big changes are simply to make it easier for the writer as oppesed to being changes because they will make good DD stories?
Anyone alse worried about this? |
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Dragonbat
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Not really. One thing that they tell writers is "Write what you know". I'd much rather read DD stories where the writer is familiar with the elements they're introducing than elements that the writers think are 'cool' but don't work because Google<Life Experience when it comes to research.
If Soule is taking what he knows and spinning compelling storylines out of it, I'm not seeing a problem. |
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Wheelie
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Right. I agree that having specific knowledge of what you're writing about is more likely to help than hinder. Soule just needs to also read a lot of DD so that he knows DD inside-out and can combine his DD knowledge with the other specific knowledge to create good stories.
One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
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Wheelie
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FYI, this might've been posted already but Waid has previously commented on Soule before Soule got the gig. It was in a Reddit AMA: http://www.theothermurdockpapers.com/2014/11/news-update-mark-waids-reddit-ama-daredevil-superior-iron-man-2/
Here's the question and answer
| Quote: | My question is – IS there someone already lined up to take over after you already? You don’t have to tell me who – I just like knowing that people are at least on the ball over there, ha.
Though if you could put in a good word for Charles Soule, I’d appreciate it. Thanks! |
| Quote: | Mark Waid:
I honestly don’t know who’s slated to take over DD next–whenever that happens, he said cryptically–but the last guy I’d recommend would be Charles, because I’d much rather be followed by someone who really sucks and can make me look that much better by comparison. Charles? I don’t need the competition. |
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james castle
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| Wheelie wrote: | | One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. |
I'm always amused when someone describes anyone supporting progress to be a cause for concern.
| Wheelie wrote: | | I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
I don't think Matt should be a crazed lefty protester but he's clearly on the left side of things. I think that's partly down to writers like Nocenti but it's also built into his character. He helps the little guy which is a traditionally lefty thing to do.
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The Overlord
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| james castle wrote: | | Wheelie wrote: | | One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. |
I'm always amused when someone describes anyone supporting progress to be a cause for concern.
| Wheelie wrote: | | I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
I don't think Matt should be a crazed lefty protester but he's clearly on the left side of things. I think that's partly down to writers like Nocenti but it's also built into his character. He helps the little guy which is a traditionally lefty thing to do. |
Well that's why I am not worried about Soule turning Matt into some sort of ultra Republican DA who would lock up the homeless or something off base like that, I think Soule is making Matt a ADA, so that we can see how the other side of the legal system works and see DD react to new situations. Taking Matt out of his comfort zone may be a good thing for the character. |
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Mike Murdock
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| Wheelie wrote: | Right. I agree that having specific knowledge of what you're writing about is more likely to help than hinder. Soule just needs to also read a lot of DD so that he knows DD inside-out and can combine his DD knowledge with the other specific knowledge to create good stories.
One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
Well, here's the context for She-Hulk. In there, Dr. Doom's son wanted asylum and they found out the deadline to apply was that day (one year from entry). So they had to race to the courthouse while being attacked by Doombots.
I'd like Daredevil to be a bit more serious there, but it does show that there isn't significant cause for concern about it being too political.
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james castle
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Murdock wrote: | | Wheelie wrote: | Right. I agree that having specific knowledge of what you're writing about is more likely to help than hinder. Soule just needs to also read a lot of DD so that he knows DD inside-out and can combine his DD knowledge with the other specific knowledge to create good stories.
One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
Well, here's the context for She-Hulk. In there, Dr. Doom's son wanted asylum and they found out the deadline to apply was that day (one year from entry). So they had to race to the courthouse while being attacked by Doombots.
I'd like Daredevil to be a bit more serious there, but it does show that there isn't significant cause for concern about it being too political. |
Just to be clear does the real life US have Doombots yet or is that just part of Trump's plan?
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Wheelie
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| james castle wrote: | | Wheelie wrote: | | One minor concern I have is that Soule is known to be a pretty progressive guy. |
I'm always amused when someone describes anyone supporting progress to be a cause for concern. |
Ha! I think the same goes for almost any political label when you take it literally. There's nothing wrong with conserving, for example -- the environment, resources, standards, money.
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| Wheelie wrote: | | I hope him writing about immigration doesn't become overwrought with sentiment and doesn't dominate too many storylines. I'd like DD to stay more or less neutral politically as much as possible, maybe a little bit centre-left if Soule must. But don't go overboard. |
I don't think Matt should be a crazed lefty protester but he's clearly on the left side of things. I think that's partly down to writers like Nocenti but it's also built into his character. He helps the little guy which is a traditionally lefty thing to do. |
I agree that Matt has been a lefty in the past. I have heard liberals argue, though, that the superhero genre in general is conservative in nature: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hollywood_values#Superheroes
I don't necessarily agree with that assessment. |
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kentuckydevil
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Well most liberals tend to whine about something or the other.
Anyway..if Soule can just be a bit above average Garney will elevate the book to something special...all of the six issues he'll illustrate.. then quit. |
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james castle
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| kentuckydevil wrote: | Well most liberals tend to whine about something or the other.
Anyway..if Soule can just be a bit above average Garney will elevate the book to something special...all of the six issues he'll illustrate.. then quit. |
I love that your post started with a zinger about liberals whining and then ended with some whining. Brilliant.
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kentuckydevil
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| james castle wrote: | | kentuckydevil wrote: | Well most liberals tend to whine about something or the other.
Anyway..if Soule can just be a bit above average Garney will elevate the book to something special...all of the six issues he'll illustrate.. then quit. |
I love that your post started with a zinger about liberals whining and then ended with some whining. Brilliant. |
I tend to have liberal leanings...lol.. |
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Dragonbat
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| New interview with Charles Soule up at CBR: http://bit.ly/1J4ETzL |
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