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What did you think of DAREDEVIL #598?
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Daredevil24
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimetre wrote:
This issue was neither bad nor great. It was... okay.

First off, I found it kind of odd that no one but Matt knows who Muse is. Lots of people were killed by him, and his painting using the blood of many people was found. He was jailed, so someone should know who he is.

I found the previous issue's cliffhanger kind of weak. Muse painted a mural of Daredevil. What does that do to the story? This issue opens with him having painted more murals very quickly. I don't know what this is going to do to Matt, who already knew that Muse had escaped custody. All this does is bring him to Fisk's attention, and, again, I don't know why Fisk is unaware of him. It's not like him to have someone like Muse escape his notice.

I like that Matt is able to zone Steve out. He's a disciplined enough person that he should be able to do that, and spy on Fisk.

At first, I wasn't thrilled to see Ron Garney return on art, however, he is the best at drawing Muse, and this is a more Muse-centric issue. So, while some of Garney's panels look a little rushed, occasionally resulting in Fisk having a weird mouth, like he's a Tim Sale character, I was happy that the Kingpin no longer looks like Vincent D'Onofrio.

I am not happy to have the black suit back. I honestly thought we had seen the last of it, but no. Apparently Matt still keeps it in his wardrobe. At least Soule rationalizes its continued use -- it makes it easier for Daredevil to hide.

While I love Muse as a villain, I guess I'm still unclear on his powers. Is he psychokinetic, meaning he can move objects without touching them?

I still don't think Soule has explained how Muse freed himself from prison, and the four panels showing the slaughter of the cops this issue are very unclear. This is really too bad. I honestly think Muse could be one of Daredevil's all-time greatest villains, but if Soule and the art team are going to be this sloppy with his part of the story, then it's a very big missed opportunity.

What I did like is that no one is clear on what Muse is using to paint the murals. I imagine everything is human remains of some sort, although I don't know how he colours it. That's a lot of green he used for the She-Hulk mural.

Fisk's choices for department heads are so stupid that they took me out of the story momentarily. Fisk is trying to convince people that he's on the up and up, isn't he? Hammerhead, Black Cat, the Owl and Diamondback? Too stupid, and Fisk should never come across as stupid.

I don't think the story advanced very far at all this issue, which is always frustrating, and I'm worried that this is going to be yet another Soule story that's going to have an unsatisfactory ending. I feel like there are too many balls in the air with this story, and that Soule is not a skilled enough juggler. "Mayor Fisk" could have been okay, but I don't know why we need a Muse story at the same time.

I'm ready for someone else to take over as writer. I think Charles Soule has done a decent job writing Daredevil, but just decent. He has had some great issues, but they were sprinkled here and there throughout his run. I wish some of the other people commenting throughout this run were able to acknowledge what Soule has done well. I, for one, will always smile when I think of Matt winning at poker against that inhuman who can see through other people's eyes.

As for being upset that Fisk no longer knows Daredevil's secret identity, I seem to remember everyone here wanting the reset button pushed. It got pushed, but now you don't like how it was pushed. Foggy knows, and now Blindspot knows. I'm sorry that this isn't the way you would have done things, but while I will concede that I'm not in love with Soule's Daredevil work, I'm glad it doesn't piss me off the way Bendis and Diggle did.

I honestly don't know who I would want to take over for Soule. I love Waid and Samnee's work on Black Widow and and Captain America, but we don't need them to return to Daredevil. I'm really enjoying Tales of Suspense, so I would probably nominate Matthew Rosenberg, but it seems like he has enough titles. His Kingpin series was the best thing about "Running With The Devil."

I gave this issue a 3.
I obviously don't share your love for Waid seeing as I think it was a slap in the face to the Daredevil mythos, but we can agree to disagree. The secret identity thing could have been rebooted during Secret Wars. Just say 'Secret Wars' and get it over with. The how really wasn't a big deal to me. The identity had become a walking gag so I don't many would habe complained how it was done. Elektra and Natasha believin they had an affair with the same person is silly and problematic. Blindspot knowing does nothing from Mr because Soule hasn't done anything interesting with him except shoehorn him in the story and take some of Matt''s thunder. My opinion though. I like your choices for a new writer though.
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Mike Murdock
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimetre wrote:

Fisk's choices for department heads are so stupid that they took me out of the story momentarily. Fisk is trying to convince people that he's on the up and up, isn't he? Hammerhead, Black Cat, the Owl and Diamondback? Too stupid, and Fisk should never come across as stupid.


I genuinely think there's more to it than that, but we'll have to see.

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I honestly don't know who I would want to take over for Soule. I love Waid and Samnee's work on Black Widow and and Captain America, but we don't need them to return to Daredevil. I'm really enjoying Tales of Suspense, so I would probably nominate Matthew Rosenberg, but it seems like he has enough titles. His Kingpin series was the best thing about "Running With The Devil."


Matt Rosenberg is doing a great job - I'd recommend checking out his Secret Warriors run as well. That being said, the name I've been campaigning to bring on for a while now is Christopher Priest. I know he wanted the job back in the day and he wrote two fill-ins a long time ago (when he wasn't quite as strong a writer as he became). He's back to writing at least some Marvel work and was seen as Marvel Retreats, so he might be looking to become a full-time Marvel writer again.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Murdock wrote:


Matt Rosenberg is doing a great job - I'd recommend checking out his Secret Warriors run as well. That being said, the name I've been campaigning to bring on for a while now is Christopher Priest. I know he wanted the job back in the day and he wrote two fill-ins a long time ago (when he wasn't quite as strong a writer as he became). He's back to writing at least some Marvel work and was seen as Marvel Retreats, so he might be looking to become a full-time Marvel writer again.


Forgot about Rosenberg, completely agree and thanks for the Secret Wars recommendation. I like his Kingpin series quite a bit and not just for his take on the Kingpin, but also the supporting characters that he created.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everyone has made great points here even I though disagree with most of them.

As the poster in this thread (and let’s be honest, probably on the board as well) who likes Soule the most, I actually agree this issue was boring. It was just too slow-the stuff with Muse was good, but it could have been condensed into the start of the next issue. I do expect Matt tuning out Steve’s talking about whatever it was that applied to the deputy mayor will come back to haunt him, though.

Personally, aside from the cancer subplot with Foggy and the two Original Sin tie-in issues with his mom, I found Waid’s Daredevil to be a nonsensical trainwreck that destroyed Daredevil’s mythos and made Matt into a good version of The Riddler. That Daredevil was neither marketable nor sustainable, so whoever came on next was going to have to do a 180 from that version anyway. But what I like about Soule’s run goes beyond the proper urban noir tone. Matt’s voice is dead on, which is really, really important to me. It’s also very well structured. Everything flows, with each arc executing itself and setting up things for future arcs and subplots. It feels like classic comic structure with interweaving A, B, and C plots, which I really appreciate in this day and age of the trade and choppy runs that don’t build properly or go anywhere. I don’t think Soule is pretending to write a deep, dark Daredevil run-I think he’s actually achieving it. I like how he’s not backing away from tough questions as in the Seventh Day arc, for example.

I can’t remember in which interview he said it, but Soule mentioned that since Waid’s run did such a good job with Matt and Foggy’s friendship, he wanted to back off from it a little, which I’m okay with because I don’t need Foggy to be in every issue. I like how Foggy makes an impact when he shows up, so he’s not just background wallpaper. As for the lack of a love life, Matt made a conscious decision to save Kirsten from the life he leads. I can’t imagine his single status will continue indefinitely, but he is going to have to work through those feelings that drove him to that decision and evaluate what that means going forward. Would he feel more comfortable only dating women who are superheroes? And I would have loved Matt and Elektra to have a daughter together for real, but that only works with long term editorial support. For every Danielle Cage that sticks around, there’s ten dead, forgotten, or retconned children.

As for Sam, I like him (admittedly not as much as I did before he imprisoned and tortured Matt, but that’s Sam’s own fault), but even if I didn’t, I’ll take an apprentice over replacement any day of the week. Plus, Soule’s avoided many of the problems with apprentice characters with Sam; he’s not a child, he doesn’t rely on Matt for support, and he has his own superhero name, powers, and neighborhood to protect. It’s really the best-case scenario given we could have another Daredevil running around, but Soule correctly chose to keep Matt unique instead. That’s important and demonstrates to me that he understands the character.

I admit I’m not really invested in the costume debate. I like the black costume, I like the red costume, and I think it makes sense for Matt to have more than one outfit depending on the situation and conditions he’s walking into. I suppose if I could pick, I’d add the boxing handwraps and boots from the black costume to the red costume as I like him honoring his father, but in the end, it doesn’t really matter as long as he looks menacing.

Since he doesn’t intend on leaving any time soon, I’m truly sorry that not everyone is enjoying his writing the way I am, but I’m fine with Soule remaining on the book as long as he can keep up this level of quality, Matt remains in the driver’s seat, and sales remain good. After Soule’s done, I agree with everyone’s choices for who to put on the title next, but I’d like to see Brisson first. Based on his Bullseye mini and his work on Iron Fist, Brisson knows what he’s doing, while I’m not sure that Priest is still interested after his success with Deathstroke, and Rosenberg needs to keep working on his pacing (I think he’ll get where he needs to be with rising and falling action, but he’s not there yet IMHO).
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