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[Solid Snake PAC]

Hey, I'm new here. So feel free to put me in my place if need be.

As far as I am concerned with the DD franchise. It started out horribly. Too much was altered in the tale of DD. Elektra was very reserved action wise. I do believe that there will be another DD movie, but if SO. They should wait for at least 6 years, and start anew. Ala Batman Begins, get top notch actors, A director who is able to bring a concrete tone of the Characters and such *i know that from the DD director's cut, the studio was a problem to have a good story*. Were I to be that director, I'd probably use the Elektra Saga as a basis. Of course this brings a problem onto people using it a second time. But look at it. DD's factor of top notch tales and such started with DD. He was fun and great before Frank Miller, but what seperated him from the rest of the heroes, was that he took his part of NYC very personal. Due to his father's murder and such. Hell's Kitchen should always be a great factor of the film. To me, DD resembles Batman in the fact that both these characters are constantly obsessed with protecting their piece of turf. I believe that for another DD film to be it must be a reboot.

As far as I've heard, Avi Arad, is trying to get the rights back and give them to Paramount. In doing so, he's trying to put most of the heroes under ONE banner, something like that of WB/DC. Minus the point that WB owns DC. So I don't know what is really up. But a Reboot would be nice.

Ben Affleck isn't a good actor, Michael Clark Duncan was a GREAT choice for the Kingpin, Jennifer Gardner was a mixed bag for Elektra. The DD costume was too much of a mixed bag. It was leather it was plastic. It strayed too much from the original. X-Men did it yes, but it was the only way to do it. Spider-Man's costume was very close to the original. Also one thing I didn't like of the DD film was that it made too linear. Think to "Born Again" the way it unraveled his origin and the main tale itself was amazing. I came to know so much of DD in that tale. It told me everything without getting lost.

yeah...I guess I gotta go to work...

[Forrest]

I frequently see two polls on this website. ~"Should Daredevil 2 be made." and "Will Daredevil 2 be made some time soon?" My answer is "no" to the later, and always a very confident "yes" to the first, as long as the business people show the respect that they have shown with the Spider-man movies. MSJ had a great movie in the director's cut and more business types messed it up severly due to stupid focus group style crap (make it shorter, cut out anything that's not violence, etc.).


I've ranted about the reasons in previous posts, and I'll definitely do so in the future, but right now, I should work. (This is what I get for checking the Man Without Fear e-mails that I got in my inbox. )

[Forrest]

...I should have read more than just the thread subject.

No, I don't think they should do a "Batman Begins" sort of thing.

[Solid Snake PAC]

Why do you say that Forrest?

[Forrest]

The Batman movies got very, very silly and there were tons of them. All throughout the 90s, the Batman movie franchise was one of the worst and saddest out there. All the while, animated series was becoming one fo the greatest cartoons ever. They needed to just start over.

Dardevil is different. First off, the DD DC is 200% better than all the pre-Begins Batman movies combined. So, the basis can be used to make a great movie. (The origin in DD, even the theatrical cut, was outstanding!) ...That's the ticket, the new movie needs to be great. Not good, like the DD TC, FF, Batman Returns, etc., but GREAT like Batman Begins, Blade, X2, Spider-man, X-Men, Superman (old school), DD DC, etc. When that happens, people will see the film and it will pay off. It won't have a big opening weekend at all, but it will build momentum, and have financial and marketing potential comparable to Batman Begins and Spider-man.

If that happens, there is no need to start over. And it would be a very painful experience to redo the origin of a hero that movie goers saw just a few years ago. Batman's origin was never properly dealt with in the other films (thanks Tim Burton ...why didn't you have Johnny Depp play Batman, I wonder? ). DD's origin was done outstandingly in the DD movie.

There hasn't been a Superman movie in decades. We need to revisit the begining for a new generation. Again, DD does not have that problem.

All in all, I think that a DD reboot would be swimming upstream in whitewater just because you don't want to swim downstream around a small rock in your way. It's silly.

[Solid Snake PAC]

See where Superman left off was with horrible movies as well. But nobody really remembers those. DD began with a bad movie. That's why I propose a Reboot. Waiting a good long time till the other one is out of memory. And than Start Anew...

[zminusx]

Whether the movie was good or not is subjective in this thread...


However, I think that eventually, the Daredevil rights need to be at a studio that would understand the character and treat/market it well.

You DO NOT need a 100 million production budget for a Daredevil film (remember, I'm saying production, not marketing at this point)...the first thing that should be looked at is the story and not necessarily the "bells and whistles" that make it pretty, IE CGI...STORY IS WHAT SHOULD COME FIRST AND FOREMOST when rethinking the Daredevil film series.

[The Overlord]