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I don't know if anyone reads CBR's Lying in the Gutters, but the most recent instalment carried an interesting rumour:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2800

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject:

I'm going to read this issue in the store (I dropped this title at #26). If what they're saying is true over on the 'Rama, well then... holy toots!

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rgj · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:

How can they ruin D.G. Chichester's work in Fall From Grace!!!! This is a travesty!!!

Seriously, all post-Miller (ELEKTRA SAGA) "Elektra" stories royally suck. ALL OF THEM. It doesn't matter what Marvel does or (now) says because I've always known that that wasn't Elektra (heck, even the Elektra in MWF mini kind of sucked too, sorry Frank).

rgj

p.s. Seriously, if this happens, I nominate all the threads in which I bash "Elektra" in for the Hall Of Fame. Smile

james castle · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:

Wow, bad day for comics if any of this crap is true.

1. I can't believe Miller would be so insanely childish as to actually be fixated on whether his imaginary character is imaginarily alive or imaginarily dead. I always thought his beef with Marvel was about him being upset that they went back on their word. Surely he's not actually upset about the "fact" that she's alive.

2. If the speculation on Newsarama is true....well, I don't know what to say. Well, other than "whatever, Marvel, whatever". At some point I'm going to just fully accept that Marvel is for kids and just move on.

1+2=3. I really can't believe that Miller would accept the "solution" as outlined in Newsarama to be a "fix" of the original problem. They (arguably) "ruin" his original story by having Elektra star in a bunch of bad stories and then "fix" the situation by producing the worst story of all time? And this makes him happy? All very dubious.

In related news: I should know this by how was it that Miller wrote MWF? I feel like his anti-Marvel thing is only half serious anyway.
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Neilan · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject:

I nver thought I would feel this way, but as much as I view Mr. Miller as the definitive DD scribe, I don't want anything or anybody to get in the way of the Brubaker/Lark team continuing on this title for a looong time. Man, timing really is everything. It would be great to have Miller back in the MU though.
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james castle · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject:

Wait, why would it be great to have Miller back in the MU? As far as I'm concerned he's fallen over himself to prove that he no longer wants to write straight up superhero books. As I've said a million times, I love DK2, will buy Allstar Batman and am even looking forward to Holy Terror Batman. That said, surely everyone has to agree that at this point Miller is incapable of writing a book in continuity.

Miller's a great writer. So is Moore. I don't think either of them should be writing main stream Marvel books.
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hekate32 · Flying Blind Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 31

Is this to 'fix' the Murdock Papers?

Skrull-Elektra - what do they smoke on these creative retreats?

I'll never hold to the notion that only one person is capable of successfully scripting a character yet in the case of Ms Natchios I have to agree with much of rgj's sentiments. I love the character, Miller's initial run were amongst the first comics I collected, but if she's to be retconned out, do it then and give her 'Saga' the standing it deserves and in doing so put one man's nose back in joint at the expense of many others.

I hope there's no substance to the Miller rumour, I hope the man cannot be that petulant or that anyone would concede to such a tantrum. I agree with James concerning Miller's return to mainstream comics. Like watching a once great fighter you adored lumber back into the ring. Don't do it Frank.

Anyway, some of this speculation regarding Skrulltra will be put to bed later today and a lot of it will spin on... and on.. and on.

Thank goodness for Brubaker's Daredevil. Here's to keeping the streets of Hell's kitchen free of Skrulls, SHRA and Hulks.

rgj · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:

I don't even know if this "fixes" anything (much less the crappy Murdock Paper's).

Look, I am not an expert on Skrulls, but even if one pretened to be Elektra, why would this Skrull come down a mountain and help Matt?

How would it know where the "Murdock Papers" are (as absurd as the idea of the papers, themselves, are). This still doesn't "fix" Bendis's mistakes regarding the chronology of KP knowing about Matt's senses, and even more, absurdly, the RANGE of the powers (unless, of course, Dan "the bomb" was a Skrull too Razz

).

Why would the Skrull want to work for Nick Fury?

Heck, why would the Skrull want to be a dancer for a spell?

Look, this is all speculation, anyway. But, if Marvel were to do something like this, then they missed a great opportunity to tell a story like this (in other words they could have made it good) instead of having Taskmast . . . I mean, Echo, kill Elektra and then, "hey, E is a Skrull!"

Oh, and the fact that all this crap (something that impacts the DD mythos) happens in a New Avengers book makes sense Rolling Eyes

. Then, again, maybe it shouldn't be in the pages of DD. Let's see, what would you rather have: a) some damn good Brubaker stories or b) Bendis/Quesada pulling stuff out of their @$$#$ storytelling.

Serioulsy, I would expect this of Joey Q, but what has become of you Brian Bendis?? Me thinks, Bendis has been replaced by a Skrull!!!

rgj

Gloria

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