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Stories with Matt in law school
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Kuljit Mithra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Stories with Matt in law school Reply with quote

Enlisting your help... I got an e-mail asking:

I'm just beginning to really get into Daredevil, and I'm loving it. I'm also in law school. What single issues / story arcs revolve around or emphasis Matt Murdock's involvement as a poverty lawyer and attorney in Hell's Kitchen? What issues feature his time as a lawyer or law student?

I'd love to collect these issues, especially.


Off the top of my head, I thought of DD#1, #-1, some of the Nocenti issues... anything else you can think of?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory he's in law school in MWF right? I recall at least one scene with him and Foggy in a dorm room. Still, I can't think of a single story that focuses on him in law school (like, a story that grows out of law school interactions). -1 comes close but not really. It's more about him going to a "new school". Could have been anything really.

He runs his poverty clinic (hurrah!) in the early-middle Nocenti issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Chichesters Daredevil/Batman featuring Two-Face and Mr. Hyde, there is a flashback scene where Matt and Harvey Dent are law students and participating in an inter-university legal debate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt and Foggy also ran a free clinic called "The Storefront". Matt opened it on the eve of elections for District Attorney, which Foggy lost to Blake Tower, Then Foggy joined Matt (Daredevil Vol. 1, # 130).

Matt and Foggy were in "The Storefront" until the day when a ninja (whom a certain Miss Natchios was trying to stop) threw a bomb against the premises (Daredevil Vol. 1, # 174).

Nelson and Murdock got new office shortly later, when Foggy ably negotiated a substantial advance payment from JJ Jameson (yes, from the old money-pinching Jonah we all know! in Daredevil Vol. 1, # 177), but in their new offices operated as an standard attorney firm, not a free clinic any longer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was the Storefront a legal clinic? That's pretty progressive for early DD.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it was a Legal clinic. Seemingly they got some financial help from a government grant, and I think that Matt's ertswhile girlfriend, Heather Glenn, also helped with money, if I recall well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Stories with Matt in law school Reply with quote

I also like diggin Matt's time in uni. Other than WMF, which is the best story of student Matt, there's Ultimate DD & Elektra.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite issues of Matt Murdock being shown as a lawyer was issues #173-174. It was about him protecting Melvin Potter (Gladiator) from being falsely accused of murder. It not only showed Matt working on the case as his civilian identity in court but also him getting to the bottom of the case as Daredevil. It really showed both sides of him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the truebeliever wrote:
My favorite issues of Matt Murdock being shown as a lawyer was issues #173-174. It was about him protecting Melvin Potter (Gladiator) from being falsely accused of murder. It not only showed Matt working on the case as his civilian identity in court but also him getting to the bottom of the case as Daredevil. It really showed both sides of him.

The story actually lasted till #175, where we had the... Mmmh... unexpected denouement of the trial. What I liked about these issues was that we not only had Matt, but Becky Blake (then just the secretary of the firm), and Foggy Nelson playing a relevant role... And all of them carrying on with the work while having personal trouble of different kinds. I liked them putting a brave face and joining efforts to defend Melvin.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your right. I had to pull my Daredevil Visionaries vol 2 out again. Thanks for the correction.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another interesting bit of lawyering could be seen running from issues 182 to 184 (vol. 1), a fine moment of the Miller run. Daredevil was after some drug dealers selling stuff to kids, and meeting -and clashing- with the Punisher. As a Lawyer, he was seen defending both the victims and the boss of the drug dealers.

It was quite an interesting story as we saw Matt torn by the need of doing justice and doing it fairly and by the book (for Frank these things are far easier). Matt also had to consider whether he could fully trust his lie-detecting senses, or not.

Another interesting issue was Matt taking the defence of a Man whom he openly disliked, but felt he had to defend as he was innocent of the crime he was being accused. Karl Kesel brought a very similar issue when he had Matt and Foggy defending Mr. Hyde (Vol. 1, # 353 to 357)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gloria wrote:
Another interesting issue was Matt taking the defence of a Man whom he openly disliked, but felt he had to defend as he was innocent of the crime he was being accused.


Was that the one where the guy was one of the bullies who used to pick on Matt when he was a kid?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another interesting law story was when Foggy sold out and went to work for the Kingpin. Maybe the old Fogster isn't as innocent as some of us (cough, cough, Gloria) like to think he is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think someone (cough, cough) could come up with an explaination for "why working with the Kingpin is not only innocuous, but also inherently heroic".
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

james castle wrote:
Another interesting law story was when Foggy sold out and went to work for the Kingpin. Maybe the old Fogster isn't as innocent as some of us (cough, cough, Gloria) like to think he is.


I've always said he's a very nice, likeable guy, but... innocent? INNOCENT?!

For God's sake, he's a friggin' LAWYER! Razz

I think you're referring to the Nocenti run Kelco trial: yes he should have checked who was the big boss behind... to his defence, I must say that he resigned when Matt told him that he was being hired by Fisk. BTW, Matt's been Fisk's attorney in one recent occasion, not that I blame him: Vanessa really left it all well tied up

Incidentally, in "Born Again", Miller had Foggy mentioning that he suspected that the new company he was working for wasn't doing all its work Legit, and he wasn't comfortable with the idea of it. Nocenti not only make him blatantly oblivious of the fact, but clearly turning a blind eye when it was convenient... While it is obvious to me that Miller had in mind a Matt Vs. Foggy scenario the moment he had Fisk considering hiring his services, I wonder if he would have written that story the way Nocenti did.
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