Daredevil Message Board

Gloria · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:18 am Post subject:

...When I think that many people's perception of Daredevil is mostly based on 1) "Guardian Devil" or 2) the... film, I'm sad.

As you say, volume 1 seems often a bit forgotten, which it is a pity as it contains grand stories which have not been topped. Many people's image of, for instance, the Elektra/Murdock story is based in the film (and not in the Frank Miller story), and this is terrible.

Incidentally; Wikipedia can be edited by anyone: this often makes of it a field day for vandals and trolls, and, of course, people who, albeit contributing earnestly, are by no means expert on the subject they are contributing... But then you can correct all that (even if you have to be watchful that your contribution nis not erased/modified by someone else)
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Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Hm. Looks like it got changed.
I can remember the description being more appropriate.

There were also, if I recall correctly, one or two lines telling that the description of how DD's powers work has never been definitive and that there are different interpretation. Did they remove that, too?

james castle · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:

I just editted to say:

"Daredevil's four remaining senses are heightened far beyond human levels. Although Murdock is blind, he can "see" by means of his "radar sense". This radar sense allows him to react to attacks and launch his own attacks much faster than normal humans and many other super heroes/villains. This also enables him to dodge most ranged and close combat attacks with reliability. Daredevil can often hear sniper-shots in time to move out of the way of the bullets path in time. He has done this multiple times, avoiding S.W.A.T snipers, and professional hitmen. Daredevil's radar sense can pick up on radiation in the environment, and can tell where radio waves are traveling. He can not, of course, understand the radio waves."
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rgj · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

But _there are_ cases in which writers come up with a particular concept of the radar sense. I'll make an example:

"Plus, get this, his senses are able to combine into radar, giving him something so much more than just sight" - "What if Karen page have lived", by B.M. Bendis.

That's very incorrect, and still, Bendis wrote it, completely ignoring the previous definitions and the OHOTMU.

rgj · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject:

And, Bendis, post-movie, is WRONG. He qualifies as one of the powers that be/chumps (as it petains to the radar--and maybe now regarding Marvel storyline ideas, for that matter) that don't know classic and true Daredevil. As I said, Bendis's sum of senses notion is written on the "Recently in Daredevil" summary page. And, it's false.

Bendis got the radar wrong and he got a bunch of other stuff wrong. He got it wrong, kind of like Kingpin telling Dan "the bomb" how to "bypass" Matt's senses during Born Again. You know, that Bendis.

rgj

Gloria · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Gloria · Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Wow, I haven't touched this thread at all and it turned very anti-Marvel, very quick. Razz

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james castle · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

While we're bashing Marvel (that's what we're doing right?) everyone should check out the interview with Tom Brevoort, the editor of the Avengers line, that IGN has up right now. They sort of discuss how the Avengers became more popular than Spider-Man and X-Men books. How indeed? Perhaps New Avengers is more popular than Spider-Man and X-Men books because they put Spider-Man and Wolverine (far and away the most popular X-Men) in New Avengers. They sort of tip toe around the issue and Brevoot spits out some pap about how you have to look out for "over-exposing" a character (I literally can't concieve of a way that Wolverine could be more exposed. Join the Runaways maybe?).

Anyway, it's another example of just how cynical Marvel has become. Clearly they wanted to boost the popularity of the Avengers to match the Spider-Man/X-Men books and they did it by making it a Spider-Man/X-Men book. Of course the whole thing is worse when you consider that neither Spider-Man nor Wolverine make much sense as team players.

Poor Marvel.
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