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Mr. Fear, The Hood, Bendis
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harryhausen
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Mr. Fear, The Hood, Bendis Reply with quote

I don't know how many of you read New Avengers, but in the last issue (uh, . . . . spoilers?):

When the Hood was organizing his villainous cabal, Mr. Fear shows up. It seems to be the Fagan Mr. Fear - in that purple and blue Skeletor-style costume. Now, Bendis seems to have been a little sloppy about the status of the villains that were at this meeting (many arrested or otherwise currently indisposed), but I thought I'd mention it. Are we dealing with the Fagan Fear and Cranston got blown up in the apartment?

Also, in the Newsarama interview about Tigra's 'beat down,' Bendis mentions that the Hood will be cropping up in other titles and specifically mentions Daredevil. Maybe Daredevil is just the guy to kick him around as the whole invisibility schtick would be pointless. I guess the levitating and demon-thingy might be bad news for DD, though.

Just passing it along . . .
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Francesco
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Mr Fear being Fagan or not, authors of the main titles sh*tting on DD's continuity has become ordinary story.
I just pray that it will be Brubaker writing the Hood in DD and not, viceversa, Bendis writing DD in the Avengers' books.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is the case, it's too bad.

It's a shame that Brubaker will have to compromise his vision, his storytelling, for another Bendis "bright" idea. It's too bad Bendis's ace trumps whatever lower card Brubaker holds at Marvel.

That is, if this whole Hood nonsense rears it's ugly head in DAREDEVIL.

Sure, Bru may come along and say he's going to make it work! It's going to be great! Read Criminal, those are all MY ideas! It's amazingly sad that New Avengers is now a companion to the DAREDEVIL title. I mean how else would we know what's going on with Mr. Fear, The Owl, the Hand and Elektra. I'm waiting for Stick to show up in New Crapengers soon. Rolling Eyes I mean, does Bendis know he's OFF the DD book??

Sad. Since Brubaker is being dictated to in regards to the DD script, I hope Bendis gives Bru a better idea of what to write after the Hood thing finishes.

I wonder if Cap's "death" was Bendis's idea too?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far the impression I have with the Hood -as he has appeared recently-, is a bit of someone displaying what a badass is, in a very show-off way ("See what I can do to Wolverine!"), but in order to be able to fill Wilson Fisk's shoes he'll have to do something with more... substance, something with real staying power, not just anecdotes or one-pannel-gags.

Someone wrote recently that it is hard to take seriously a guy who dresses like Little Red Riding Hood, and so far I'm under that impression: I hope that Brubaker can turn him into a believable Big Bad Wolf.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone can be too surprised about The Hood going into DD. Just a matter of when. Maybe, if DD goes more mainstream, instead of the title being hurt, it'll help the whole of the Marvel U, being so quality as it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Born Again wrote:
I don't think anyone can be too surprised about The Hood going into DD. Just a matter of when. Maybe, if DD goes more mainstream, instead of the title being hurt, it'll help the whole of the Marvel U, being so quality as it is.

I don't mean to be cynical, but I think Bendis has much more influence on the Marvel Universe than Brubaker, seeing as how Civil War was his idea in the first place. And judging from how crappy the New Avengers and Mighty Avengers are these days, Bendis' influence doesn't seem to be a good thing. So DD helping the whole of the Marvel U? Sorry but doubtful.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in one sense, Brubaker is partly the cause of the Hood’s play to take over, in that Bru removed the Kingpin, thus leaving the vacuum that may be filled by the Hood. Of course, this has been done before by the House of Recycled Ideas and my assumption is that it wasn’t Bru’s idea to use the Hood. I certainly don’t have a problem with hoods vying for the top spot, I just don’t think the Hood is ready. I thought the original series by BK Vaughn and Kyle Hotz was pretty decent, but the Hood was portrayed as a low level hoodlum who ‘lucks’ into acquiring the mystical hood and boots. He certainly didn’t have the commanding presence of a gang leader. And his cousin and right hand man, was even more of a loser. It’s hard to picture these mooks organizing their lunch, let alone all of NY’s costumed criminals. It’ll probably wind up being the demon who Parker Robbins supposedly killed to get the mystical garments, that’s making him more vicious, but it still seems out of character to me. I may be letting my bias against demons being used in any comic outside of Dr. Strange be a slight factor, but either way, there should have been more development of the Hood character before a move like this would seem like a suitable fit. Now, if their takeover attempt falls flat on its face, then that would ring true to me, but if these lovable losers wind up running the MU’s supervillains, I would find it to be an unbelievable stretch.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neilan wrote:
(...) the Hood was portrayed as a low level hoodlum who ‘lucks’ into acquiring the mystical hood and boots. He certainly didn’t have the commanding presence of a gang leader. And his cousin and right hand man, was even more of a loser.

Maybe the Hood will take command over Hell's Kitchen only to be overthrown by Turk and Grotto Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must be said that Bendis has stated that the Hood is not replacing Wilson Fisk as the Kingpin of Crime, but rather he is becoming the Kingpin of Supervillains.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neilan wrote:
... but the Hood was portrayed as a low level hoodlum who ‘lucks’ into acquiring the mystical hood and boots. He certainly didn’t have the commanding presence of a gang leader. And his cousin and right hand man, was even more of a loser. It’s hard to picture these mooks organizing their lunch, let alone all of NY’s costumed criminals.


I think it was done on purpose, to pull of a sort of "Vito Croleone in the GodfatherII".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me the whole "The Hood" business stinks of Bendis' increasingly sad one trick: sloppily applying "real world" thinking to the MU. I gather the gist of the recent New Avengers is "what if a villian was really serious about crime?" or some crap. Bendis is talking about this Tigra beat down as though it's somehow original. It isn't. Beating up heroes do. "What if a villian decided to beat up a hero and threaten her family?". Well, the heroes would track down and beat the hell out of the villian. This is the whole premiss of comics.

Whatever, it's sad how far Bendis has fallen.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, the heroes would track down and beat the hell out of the villian.


Yes. And then the hero's family gets killed, as per said villain's threat (same goes for the other heros who heroically tracked down and beat the hell out of the villain).
Foreseeing this scenario, the victimized hero doesn't tell anyone about the aggression.

Edited: Bendis' attempt to "put some real world into it" is not bad, per se, but it's at high risk of failure, if it isn't made seriously.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just say how insulting this entire thread is to me? Wow.

Brian Bendis is one of my closest friends, for one, and would never force a plot on ANYONE, for another. I asked if I could use the Hood in DD because I wanted to, after hearing his plans for him. If you keep reading the comic, you'll see how it all fits together.

Or you could just sit around and make insulting assumptions. I guess that's more fun, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a newcomer to this board, I've injected my opinions into what seems like every single thread, whether "dead" or alive (okay, I'm exaggerating just a tad...), except this one. Since I only read Daredevil, I have no idea what's going on in most other books, and I had never heard of the Hood before reading this thread. I consequently have no idea of the merits of this villain, nor do I have an opinion on whether he should be used in DD or not.

Having said that, and I think I speak for the vast majority of fans on this board (including those who have posted in this thread), I have complete confidence in Ed's ability to handle whatever character he wants to use. And, no, I'm not just saying that to kiss up (although I do think the fact that Ed actually posts here from time to time is incredibly cool and says a great deal about his commitment to the character). I guess the best thing to do is to reserve judgement until after the fact.

God, I suddenly feel unusually Swedish... For those of you who have no idea of what I'm talking about, detesting conflict and wanting everyone to get along is kind of a national characteristic. Just trying to spread the love here. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Brubaker wrote:

Or you could just sit around and make insulting assumptions. I guess that's more fun, right?


I had no intention to insult you.
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