Daredevil Message Board

[jumonji]

Apropos of the discussion in this thread, here's a poll. The options here might be a little strange (best I could do off the top of my head), but I guess you could say they range from hating the character to loving the character with a few different options in the middle. Vote away people!
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The Other Murdock Papers

[Gloria]

Well, I'm a bit tired of the "dead girlfriend routine". Matt has had enough of it already: Elektra, Karen, Glorianna, Heather... enough is enough!

So I'd like Milla to recover and stay with Matt... or, if the writers decide that Daredevil will work better without Milla around, I would definitely like them to opt for more civilised solutions, like a temporary separation, a divorce, Milla falling in love with a guy who doesn't desert the conjugal mattress every night...

In fact, I'd love Daredevil stories growing beyond the "jeopardized girlfriend" scenario.
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Gloria
Devuélveme el rosario de mi madre y quédate con todo lo demás

"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[Daredevi1]

i with gloria in this one.........matt is far worse than Kyle Rayner in the "Woman in Refrigerator Syndrome"......c`mon 4 dead girlfriends? isn`t that enough guilt?

Milla should recover.....then is up to Bru what`ll happen in the future.....

dda
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"a man without hope , it`s a man without fear!!!!"

[Dimetre]

I didn't really care for her in the first place. It just seemed kind of odd for Daredevil to get in such a committed relationship when he was under so much public scrutiny. Besides, Karen hadn't been dead for too long, and he had also been in a brief but very intense relationship with Maya Lopez (which Bendis didn't address at all.)

But the thing that really bugged me about the relationship with Milla is that throughout Daredevil's run, the character always had a well-developed sense of responsibility. He would always think about the well-being of others more than his own. But during his time with Milla, he insisted on going out on dates with Milla, even though everyone, from Mr. Hyde to Bullseye, suddenly knew who he was. I can understand why Milla would want to be with Matt -- he's successful, handsome and exciting. But it seems selfish for Matt to place a woman's life in danger, particularly at that point in time, simply to avoid being lonely. The Daredevil I knew would have realized that he had no choice but to be lonely until he had rectified the situation. I can't believe that he decided to marry her, particularly after Bullseye had nearly killed her. I can't believe he decided to get married at all.

Well, I think that Milla's soliliquy in the issue Brubaker wrote from her point of view contains so many other points as to why the marriage can't last. I'm realistic though. Even after the divorce occurs, she'll likely always be a peripheral character, as the woman that Matt had scarred the most deeply.

[Gloria]

Dimetre, you bring interesting points.

I always had the feeling that they rushed too much to give Matt a new girlfriend, as you point out, Matt's circumstances when he started dating Milla were far from ideal. I wonder if an alarm sounds at Marvel each time Daredevil is without a love interest for more than three issues, LOL, and people feels forced to write one out of the blue.

It is true that the Milla/Matt marriage is confronting difficulties big enough to break a lot of relationships, but it's not only Matt's women, but all of Matt's friends, who find themselves in a risky situation just for being close to Matt.
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Gloria
Devuélveme el rosario de mi madre y quédate con todo lo demás

"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[Dimetre]

[Gloria]

[jumonji]

Hmm... Couldn't this all be a simple case of lust winning over common sense? She thinks he's a hot exiting lawyer/superhero and he likes the way she smells. Maybe Matt was more open to meeting someone because he was feeling vulnerable, and she apparently has a thing for wild guys (at least according to Bru in #94). Maybe the're both adrenaline junkies in their own way.

Okay, so the relationship may have been rushed in the beginning, but we're right now at a point where it already exists, and it's also clear that they really do have very strong feelings for each other (even though Milla is not Karen). I'm with Gloria in the "not another dead girlfriend" corner here, and I also find myself caring more for the character since Brubaker took over the book, though I always thought she was at least mildly interesting. Having said that, I actually liked how Bendis introduced her into the series as a passionate, confident, and fiercely independent character with no need to be taken care of (thank God, Bendis and Brubaker for a complete absence of blind clichés in this regard...). I think what happened later was that Bendis kind of forgot to tell everyone what they specifically liked about each other, and this is where there needs to be some development. We can already guess why she loves him, because we're crazy fans and we love him too (I liked the thread where James Castle openly admitted that he would date Matt if he were a real person ). What still remains unclear is what he loves about her, especially with her having gone so many issues essentially being someone other than herself. There is something unresolved, or rather unexplained, about the relationship that Bru needs to address at some point, regardless of how it all ends.
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The Other Murdock Papers

[james castle]

I don't recall saying I'd date Matt if he were a real person (although I probably would (although maybe not given his fictional father figure/best friend status in my life)). I, would, however, date Milla for sure. She's awesome. Their meeting was awesome. Her overall personality (confident, strong, blind woman) is awesome. I'd like her to stay around forever.

If she has to go though, it'd be cool if she left Matt. It would be kinda a novel spin on things, provide Matt with a newish kind of trauma and would be in keeping with the fact that she was the one who initially approached him.
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So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

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[Gloria]

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[Gloria]

[Dimetre]

[Darediva]

I like Milla. I thought the issue with her POV fleshed out her character a great deal, and after all, she IS the only woman to get Matt to "make it legal".

The point about both of them being adrenaline junkies is a good one. Milla likes the "bad boys" or at least ones that don't treat her like a porcelain doll. I like that part of her character. She knows what she wants, and she goes after it.

I'd like to think that she will stick around in some manner, whether or not she stays married to Matt. She does need to get over the insanity, so she can go back to that philanthropic work in the Kitchen. That's another big part of her story, and I liked that.

As an aside, I didn't remember that part about JC saying he'd date Matt, either, but that is a really good thread when you go back to read it.
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Those who throw dirt merely lose ground.