Daredevil Message Board

[The Overlord]

Here is the thing, with DD's secret ID, wouldn't his entire rogues gallery still know that this point?

All DD did was throw doubt as to whether he was Murdock or not, psychopaths like Purple Man, Bushwacker and Mr. Hyde shouldn't care that Murdock might not be DD, if there is even 1% chance he was, they wold kill him on principal. These people are already murderers, once more dead civilian won't make a difference to them.

[james castle]

Well, we know that Spidey doesn't know. Sigh.
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JC

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[jumonji]

Woohoo, I'm back! (Not sure that's actually how you spell "woohoo" though). Too bad there have only been something like ten posts in the last couple of weeks(!).

As for DD's secret ID, I think Bru skillfully walks the line between making it a much more insignificant deal than it was in the aftermath of Out without in any way retconning it away or sweeping it under the rug.

Obviously, most of the villains know (and the question as to why Matt isn't simply "eliminated" just based on this rumor is one of the things that actually makes the out-of-the-closet superhero a less than stellar idea in the long run). It bugs me a little how they all also seem to know how his senses work. Having them believe that he simply fakes his blindness would have been a better idea I think, and this was one area where Bendis dropped the ball, in my opinion (otherwise a big fan of his work). When you expose a superhero's powers - and lack thereof in this case - you make the situation incredibly dangerous for the hero and it's hard to put that kind of genie back into the bottle without violation good storytelling and continuity.

When it comes to the average person on the street: Who knows? I would imagine that they might be split down the middle. The one category I believe would be the most willing to believe that he was framed would be some people in the "casual acquaintances" category. People who aren't friends, but aren't perfect strangers either. I'm talking about some of the people he would meet on the job or the cashiers at whatever local grocery store he frequents. That is, people who are used to interacting with him in his civilian life. If Matt's doing his "job" right, these people should find it quite a stretch to actually buy the idea that he's also a superhero.

Those were my two cents, what do you guys think?
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[Francesco]

Regarding Kingpin, while it is true that at first, when he had just learned of DD's identity he made the hypotesys that Matt was just faking being blind to protect his secret identity, I think that afterwards he might have suspected that Matt was actually blind, and was able to be a superhero thanks to some undisclosed different abilities/superpowers.

Proof of this can be found in DD #287, where Fisk watches Matt fighting boxing matches blindfolded. Kingpin recognizes him. At that point it was probably evident to him that Matt was capable of fighting without using his sight, and so there was the possibility that he was, in fact, blind.

[Gloria]

In Born Again Karen expressely mentions that she talked DD's secret ID, but not his special senses/power.

In the beginning of "The Devil in Cell Block D" Foggy says that Matt should have tests that prove he's blind in order to remain in a protected cell... So this suggests to me that -at least in Brubaker's run- the belief is "if Murdock is DD then he's faking his blindness"... I mean, I can get that SHIELD has a file on Matt with a lot of facts, but ALL the supervillains? many supervillains (for not all are in the Dr. Doom league) aren't able to work a plan to properly steal a chemist's... so the thought of them being briefed about their superheroic opponents' strenghts and weaknesses is a bit beyond my belief.

So I doubt most supervillains know the "radar & extra senses" facts. In fact, the last major supervillain seen in the series (which is old, old acquaintance od Murdock) is aware of Matt's special hearing, but we don't know if he knows about the radar.

And BTW, though it's hard to see how uphill things are for Matt, I'm glad that Brubaker chose to develop the secret ID conundrum from a reasonably realistic point of view: I mean, what he does in DD is far more credible and interesting than, hum, say, arranging Matt's outing (which is the source of a lot of trouble for him) by having a demon magically erasing the memories of everyone.

But then this is why I love DD and I am no longer tickled by Spiderman: because DD writers -on average, have RESPECT for their readers.
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