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rgj

Just wanted to ask everyone what they thought of the Dark Knight film?
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james castle · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject:

Greatest super hero movie of all time.

Harvey going bad "all the sudden"? Really? His fiance was blown to bitty bits while he listened. I think he had cause.

Awesome, awesome movie.
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Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

Saw it on Saturday night in IMAX. Unfortunately, I was in the 2nd row. lol That screen is big in IMAX.
Like blacktyphoid, there was a quiet in the audience whenever Joker would be on screen... like if we made any noise, we'd miss out on the performance. Just a great display of acting by Ledger, and it's too bad we'll never see anything like it again.

Overall, I thought the story moved well, although I didn't once believe Gordon was dead. The only issue I had, and I had the same issue with Batman Begins... Bale just sounds funny when he's talking in costume.

Certainly ranks up there as the best comic movie. And the thing I'm impressed about most is that it seems to be attracting people's interest who would never watch this type of movie, like how Iron Man did.
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rgj · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

This was some awesome film. I agree with jc, this could very well be the best one ever (comic book "hero" film, that is). Although, I haven't seen Iron Man, yet (yeah, I know, not the same movie in "tone", but still a comic character). Overall, though, it's up there with Sin City as the best if you count graphic novels.

But, anyway, what a great film. I loved Bat's trip to Hong Kong. No jurisdiction for the Batman, indeed. Liked the "radar" vision effect (viewed with his eyes). Just another reminder of what could have been had someone with talent done the DD movie.

And, Heath Ledger's Joker. Holy crap. Maybe the greatest performance in a comic book hero film. I was really struck with the line Joker gives to Bats about him completing him. About them being destined to to this over and over again. And, then you think about how Ledger is dead. The film industry lost one hell of an actor (which, I know, is insignificant to the loss his family feels).

It was an interesting move having Batman being a fugitve at the end of the film (which is funny compared to Daredevil, 'cause you know if they made another DD film, you know that they'll forget that DD is wanted for murder--which he DID commit). I didn't think the film gave enough time for Bruce to really mourn Racheal--this one part seemed rushed. And, I have to admit that the Bats/Dent confrontation at the end was a bit anti-climactic. And, I kind of don't believe what happened with the two ferries at the end. Call me cynical, but in real life I think there would have been some fireworks. In real life, I think the Joker would have been right. I was truly hoping the "citizens" would have pressed the detonator to kill the convicts (funny how the "citizens" forgot about the cops/ferry crew on the convict's boat), only to realize, in a brief flash, that they were actually blowing themselves up.

But, seriously, . . . why so serious? (I know, that was lame Laughing

). But, the film was excellent. Can't wait for the next one.

p.s. How about that Watchman preview! Wow!
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rgj · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject:

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Dimetre · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:

Very good movie. Heath Ledger (tragically ironically) gave the performance of his life. He was definitely the highlight of this movie.

But I don't share the enthusiasm of those who call the Dark Knight a "masterpiece." I felt that Christian Bale's Batman voice had gotten annoying by the end of the film, and I also thought that Gary Oldman's speech just before the credits was too over-the-top. My big beef though, and I sadly also complained about this with the Daredevil movie, is that the rapid-fire editing makes the action scenes very hard to follow, and the dark ambience in The Dark Knight makes it that much harder.

But the rivalry between Batman and the Joker is just excellent. I love how the Joker possesses a uniquely demented logic. He actually has a point to make in his own psychotic way. Obviously The Killing Joke was one of Nolan's references, and perhaps Brubaker's The Man Who Laughs was too.

james castle · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject:

rgj · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

"Ice to see you!"

C'mon, jc, how can you not see this in the next film!? Ha.

Anyway, yeah, the DK's Joker did best his Killing Joke counterpart. But, I guess an Anton Chigurh victory is too much to ask for. When the convict threw the detonator, I'm like, yeah, nice touch, even the worst of us are capable of a noble act, very true. But, the citizens. Ah, those good people must surly know they deserve to live. They're better than those criminals. Because they follow the rules, damnit. And, that's the justification they'd use for something that at it's core is selfishness. And, I guess I just think it would have been interesting if the Joker's last joke would have been to have the citizens, who follow those rules the Joker thinks are just illusions, blow themselves up.

But, you're right, I guess that's too dark for this film. But, I'm sure you can see the funny side.

By the way, jc. I don't think we'll see the Joker agian, for the tragic reasons above. Besides, I don't think any actor can duplicate what Ledger did. And, I don't think we can only have Two Face in the next pic. Do you feel the other rogues villains are too silly (looking) for this new "realistic" (for a lack of a better word) take on Bats? Who do you hope is the next villain?
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The one thing that really made me chuckle in this thread was whoever basically said, "Ledger gave maybe the best performance in a comic book movie."

...Without hyperbole on my part, name ANYTHING close. Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider? Affleck's DD?

Just saying. No 'maybe' about it.

You know what I loved? The Chinese businessman getting burned at the top of the money pyramid--and it's portrayed as a total afterthought. "Meh, Joker doesn't care, why should I?"

The only question I have, and I've only seen it once and may not have caught it, was--how did Bruce know Joker was coming to the party, enabling him to choke out Harvey and toss him in the closet?

Whatever. It's so minor--still hands down the best comic book movie of all time. And jc nailed the Departed-esque reason.

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