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allstate85
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Recommended Reading Reply with quote

Hello all!

This is my first post, so go easy.

I am new to reading DD (about 1 year) and I am finding that he is one of my favorite characters. I have read all of Waid`s volume 3, and JRJr and Miller`s Daredevil: Man without fear. I am in the process of obtaining the Born Again run ( vol. 1 227-233) and the Fall from grace run (vol. 1 319-325). I also plan on getting DD yellow and delving into volume 2. The question I pose to this community is what order I should read some of these series, specifically the fall from grace run because it isn't addressed in the recommended reading section of this site. Any suggestions are much appreciated and any other recommended reads would be great as well.

Thanks!
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Kuljit Mithra
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for joining the board!

I'd suggest reading the books you mentioned in this order...

Born Again
Fall From Grace
Guardian Devil before Daredevil Yellow
Then rest of Volume 2

If you can find Fall of the Kingpin, you can fit that in between Born Again and Fall From Grace.

If you need any more help just let me know.
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james castle
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest you skip Yellow and read Miller's Man Without Fear instead.
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Darkdevil
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read Miller's original DD run (#165-191 Vol. 1) available through any number of TPBs and Omnibuses.

This work defined the modern era Daredevil and continues to influence the character to this day.
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Dimetre
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkdevil wrote:
Read Miller's original DD run (#165-191 Vol. 1) available through any number of TPBs and Omnibuses.

This work defined the modern era Daredevil and continues to influence the character to this day.

I also think that Daredevil Yellow is unnecessary, since you've already picked up Miller and JR Jr's Man Without Fear, which I enjoy more, but understand that the ultra-violence in that book is not typical of Daredevil, even if it is typical of everything Miller has done since the 80s.

I agree with Darkdevil that you must MUST read Miller's original run in Volume 1 #165-191. They have been collected in three volumes entitled Frank Miller Visionaries. Volume 2 and Volume 3 are compulsory reading for everyone who wants to appreciate Daredevil, and Born Again will not have the same impact without that background.

So I would suggest:

Start with Man Without Fear.

Then read Frank Miller Visionaries Volumes 2 and 3

If you can find the collection called Love's Labor Lost by Denny O'Neil and David Mazzuchelli, read it next. It's great, but it's hard to find, so no worries if you can't.

You're now ready for Born Again. You'll love it. It's the best thing Frank Miller ever did. I don't think he ever topped it.

After that, read whatever you want in the run. I would recommend Parts of a Hole by David Mack, with art by Joe Quesada and David Ross. Some of Ann Nocenti's run has been collected, and much of it is good. People will no doubt recommend Bendis' run, but I must be crazy because I don't enjoy it. Ed Brubaker had a good run on the book in the latter stages of Volume 2. Don't listen to anyone who recommends Andy Diggle's run, or anything involving the word "Shadowland." Mark Waid brings us to the present day, and I think his work keeps getting better and better. It's a great time to be a Daredevil fan!
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Pete
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Recommended Reading Reply with quote

allstate85 wrote:
... specifically the fall from grace run because it isn't addressed in the recommended reading section of this site.


Yep, there's a very good reason for that!
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kentuckydevil
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darkdevil wrote:
Read Miller's original DD run (#165-191 Vol. 1) available through any number of TPBs and Omnibuses.

This work defined the modern era Daredevil and continues to influence the character to this day.



agree..millers work still holds up today..
speaking of..and I'm not trying to demean a character we all love by monetary values but I bought DD # 168 in fine condition today for 1.50..I've missed this book since the day I sold it over 20yrs ago..back in my collection again.

good luck with DD..a great character.

ky
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AP
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miller's original run is mandatory, including the issues where he was only the artist.

Love's Labor Lost by Denny O'Neil and David Mazzuchelli is also really great. Mazzuchelli's art is simply gorgeous. It's worth the price for the art alone. That's the only trade for that run, but if you can find any of the single issues, most are worth it.

Born Again is mandatory, just like Miller's original run.

Nocenti's run: Some of the Typhoid Mary stuff is interesting, but the message is often VERY preachy, to the point of being distracting. A great number of the stories weren't written to serve the character. Regardless of if you agree with Nocenti's views or not, it's very obvious she wanted to use DD as a vehicle to air her views, often to the detriment of the story and character. I find DD often gets lost in her symposiums, so it's pretty unsatisfying.

I second getting a hold of Fall of the Kingpin. It ties in great with Born Again and is one of my favorites. Weeks art is great.

Fall From Grace: take it or leave it. I read Elektra:Assassin before this, so a few interesting things tied in, but the story really is a mess and doesn't really work. Read Kuljit's interview with Chichester and McDaniel on this site. It makes it all more interesting and makes the story make a little more sense.

Next, read Guardian Devil. It's interesting, but I agree with some of the criticism it's received.

Follow that with Yellow. Yellow is great and fills in the early important stuff you'll miss from the Stan Lee run. I've read the entire Stan Lee run and I would recommend reading Yellow instead of jumping in to that run. It's far too silly and campy, more so than the other Marvel characters from that era. You can really tell DD wasn't a priority for Lee. And I love Gene Colan, but the quality of the art varies from issue to issue. Half the time it's great, but half the time it's uneven or just bad. Couple that with a silly story and it's very unsatisfying. Best to get the cliff notes and move on.

From there, move on to Benids and Brubaker. And, as it's already been stated, stay away from the Diggle run. The only worthwhile issues were issues 505-507, and that's mainly for Marco Checchetto's art. Other than that, stay far, far away.
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Nightwing2001
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kentuckydevil wrote:
Darkdevil wrote:
Read Miller's original DD run (#165-191 Vol. 1) available through any number of TPBs and Omnibuses.

This work defined the modern era Daredevil and continues to influence the character to this day.



agree..millers work still holds up today..
speaking of..and I'm not trying to demean a character we all love by monetary values but I bought DD # 168 in fine condition today for 1.50..I've missed this book since the day I sold it over 20yrs ago..back in my collection again.

good luck with DD..a great character.

ky


Geez man, 1.50 for that issue? You lucked out! Got mine in 1992 and it still cost me 20 bucks way back then. Well done! Very Happy
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