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Best Daredevil origin story

 
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The Overlord
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Best Daredevil origin story Reply with quote

What is the best Daredevil origin story? You have the Man Without Fear mini from 1993, you also have the original Silver Age stories that told DD's origin and later stories that reimagined those Silver Age issues, like Daredevil Yellow and Daredevil Season One.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is only one origin story, published in 1964 by Lee/Everett. Although I have a soft spot for the later silver age Thomas/Colan re-telling, that is all it is, a re-telling or reinterpretation of the original.

Just like all the others that have followed, the majority of which are good.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's just because I read it around the time I first started reading DD but I've always liked the retelling in #164 by Roger McKenzie. Also like Man Without Fear by Miller even though it's way, way, way off the original.

Agree with Pete though that these are just retellings.
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The Overlord
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete wrote:
There is only one origin story, published in 1964 by Lee/Everett. Although I have a soft spot for the later silver age Thomas/Colan re-telling, that is all it is, a re-telling or reinterpretation of the original.

Just like all the others that have followed, the majority of which are good.


Well that's mostly true, the basic story is almost always the same, the story of the rise and fall of Jack Murdock, his murder at the hands of the Fixer and Matt going after the Fixer to avenge his father's death.

However Man Without Fear has some serious contradictions to the original Silver Age story, I think its why a lot of people don't think Man Without Fear is in canon. The basic story is the same to a point, but a lot of details are different and what happens after Fixer seems to contradict the Silver age stuff. I am not sure how the Elektra and Kingpin stories from Man Without Fear fit into the Silver age stories where Matt faces off against his Silver age rogues gallery. You kinda have to square a circle for Man Without Fear to be in canon.

With Daredevil Yellow and Season One, more of the framework from the Silver Age story is retained, usually with a few new scenes or a new sub plot added in so the story is somewhat different from the Silver age story, without having a huge contradiction in regards to the Silver age story, you can just pretend that the subject or new scenes were going during the first couple of DD issues or you can ignore them. Usually the focus from those minis is a bit different from the Silver Age and some of the characterization is a bit different, with Purple Man being more creepy in the retellings.
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AP
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always liked the retelling in #164 by Roger McKenzie/Frank Miller as well. Really liked Yellow too.

I like Man Without Fear, but it strays too far from the original for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally love DD:Yellow, Loeb and Sale are such a great creative team and their colour series they did at marvel are all excellent.
The story has romance, action, thrills, spills and heart with real emotion.

Brilliant art work, brilliant story-telling, doesn't get better than that Smile
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DesignDevil
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Man Without Fear" By Frank Miller and John Romita Jr.
No other version comes close. This story is to Daredevil what "Year One" is to Batman. A nearly perfect modern update of his origin. The only thing I wish Miller had done differently was to leave out the 6 or so pages of Elektra killer the thugs. Should have left it ambiguous as to whether she was really crazy yet.
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Darkdevil
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine would be Man Without Fear simply for how well Miller expands on the traditional origin.

Some elements may not fit well with Silver Age canon, but judging Miller's influence on the character and title, Man Without Fear is the origin of the Miller DD.
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Francesco
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite origin is Miller's "The Man without Fear", though it hard to make it coherent with the whole "yellow costume" stuff.
As for DD:Yellow, I think that story was terrible, full of triteness and of stuff that was out of character and that made little sense.
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The Overlord
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they ever made a movie about DD's origin, perhaps it would be a good to take elements from both Man Without Fear and the Silver Age/DD Yellow origin. Similar to how Batman Begins combines elements from Batman Year One, Long Halloween and Dark Victory, as well as some original elements.
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Francesco
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that would be a good idea for a movie dealing with the origin, especially since the story was meant to be the script for a movie.
Yet, if I recall correctly, for the next movie they intended not to dwell too much on the origins.
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