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Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

DAREDEVIL #19 by Mark Waid, Chris Samnee and Javier Rodriguez ships October 17th, and here is the preview:

http://www.manwithoutfear.com/gallery/Daredevil-V3-019

Please use this thread for all discussion related to the issue! (Have a close look at the tagline and logo on the cover)
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ninjacop · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject:

oooo I like it, the blood in the logo is depleting, it's lower than the last issue!
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Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

SPOILERS, just in case...

So what did you think of the revelation?
That page where DD is looking at his own headless body was freaky.
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Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject:

Oh man! I really have no idea where this is going, but I sure loved the return of this now deadlier villain. Really should of seen that part coming.

I'm not too worried about Matt though. I have several of his action figures that can do the same thing. It'll be fine as long as the dog doesn't get a hold of his head. Wink

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Daredevil24 · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 367

Very disappointed with this issue.I look forward to the next creative team.I'll just leave at that

ninjacop · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject:

excellent issue, great revelation, i love the colours of this run particularly, its such a stark contrast against the entirety of vol 2 in which everything was at night (nothing against that though).

I think coyote will be a great villain, if he is the spot and he has changed then it's great, i love how even a side villain from one-issue can develop to give DD this much trouble.

I though some of the artwork was a bit clumsy however, especially the jumps when he is teleported in the warehouse, otherwise the artwork and direction was excellent as always from this run of the series.

I love seeing ant-man again, and think that including the wider universe actually helps DD when he just goes and sees them, rather than the big epic crossovers.

Overall i though it was a 4/5, cannot wait to see how it pans out.!!
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Dimetre · Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject:

I'm really enjoying this series right now. I love how I have absolutely no idea where things are going. The ending had me just as confused as Daredevil, which must be what Waid and Samnee intended.

I really enjoyed how Foggy slurred his speech. You could really hear it.

Waid is really rocking this book. After, in my opinion, letting his art slip last issue, Samnee really raised things up again. A top notch issue.

theunrealstudios · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:42 am Post subject:

*SPOILERS*

i'm not dissapointed as from the begining of the issue i deduced it was a teleporter however i didn't want it to be the spot. i didn't mind the idea but i actually had another person in mind who made sense and was just far enough back to make people forget.

There was a story written a long time ago in like 2003-04 called spiderman/ black cat: the evil that men do by Kevin Smith that had Daredevil in it for the last arc.

there was a heroin teleporter in it named Francis Klum who took revenge against the three of them and briefly took on the identity as the third mysterio and he fit the bill of this guy.

a) he can teleport liquids so the minute i saw the husk i said "bloods gone.....teleporter" and there were only two teleporters known to be clever enough to teleport liquids Garrison and Francis Klum.

b) people and objects no problem

c) low level telepath. i actually thought Klum telepathically linked Milla in Matts mind to explain her situation rather than actually being in the room. So did Coyotee do Matts laundry after or....

d) he had an interesting backstory of abuse and had a history/ reason to hate Matt and even offered to take Matt out for Fisk.

e) below C list but his mutant powers gave him poetential

I know Waid wants to breath new life into DD villains and make them his own which i respect but the spot has always been an obscure one so we'll see. That being said however this kind of villain established very quickly a sinister movie quality style that i did not expect to enjoy. i know it contradicts what i imply earlier but he's a cool setup and reminds me of the exploits of such masterminds as Mr. Fear, Typhoid Mary and of course Fisk.

On a side note anyone else really annoyed with the betrayal from Foggy? Two years dealing with Matts outting and fighting legal battles to avoid prison and he blabs to someone working for the district attourneys office??

the gael · Playing to the Camera Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 119

It's strange, when you wrote "i'm not dissapointed as from the begining of the issue i deduced it was a teleporter however i didn't want it to be the spot. i didn't mind the idea but i actually had another person in mind who made sense and was just far enough back to make people forget.", I instantly thought of the good old "Deathstalker". Because, after having seen what happened in the issue, I thought of him.

That being said, I'm glad that a very lame and joke villian like the Spot has been revamped in a deadly foe.

This time, Matt has really lost his head... litterally !

qtmxd · Playing to the Camera Joined: 19 Sep 2010 Posts: 149

this kind of utter, 1950s comic book foolishness is what I can't stand about the current run. That, and artwork I can't believe earned a paycheck. I thought nothing could sink lower than Shadowland, but now I wonder.
If I interpreted it correctly, btw, I thought the original plan was to put the book on hiatus after Shadowland, then bring him back after a couple of years, like Thor, but they changed their minds. With the new Spider-Man scheduled, I think DD is now the only one of Marvel's original 60s heroes that has never been on a significant hiatus ( not counting re-numberings) or been replaced by another character in his own book. (He was relaunched almost immediately after the Black Panther replacement.) Not counting teams either, since even the FF has had line-up changes.

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

I'm loving these issues.
I had suspected it was a guy able to teleport stuff from the previous issues, seeing as it was coherent with stuff and people appearing and vanishing all of a sudden. What made me think of a guy with the ability to open portals was the bit when the bad guy apparently falls from a height inside the elevator while fleeing DD, but DD finds nothing.

Anyway, I'm not 100% sure yet that the guy is Spot. DD's radar depicts him the same way he was depicted in the first issue, but I suspect that he's someone else who's stolen his powers and went to use them in a more creative way. He's not telling he isn't the original Spot as a way to further mess with DD's head (uhm.. figuratively speaking).

Foggy is being an utter arse here, in my opinion. He's going so frequently between wanting to help/forgiving Matt and then scolding/abandoning him that maybe it is he who'd benefit going to a psychiatrist.

Darkdevil · Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:57 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

I was noticing that the Coyote appears to have two slightly different powers. One is the trademark power of Spot, i.e. opening up portals.
The other seeme more akin to be able to teleport objects without having them pass through portals. The first is used to shoot the mobsters, the other is used to have DD's billyclub disappear, and to teleport DD around in the warehouse as he tries to save them. I wonder if there's a deeper explanation to this.

Daredevil24 · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Posts: 367

Gee · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:46 am Post subject:

I enjoyed this very much as well, the artwork I am not greatly excited by but it does the job, the story is pretty good.
Foggys 'betrayl' is a sign of how much he is frustrated and desperate, I also assume he thinks she knows anyway.

The ending was good, terrifying and horrible. My only problem was one I rasied in another thread, I am slightly worried that we see DD captured every 3 issues (well it seems that way!), he does seem to be spending alot of this run escaping after being captured by villains, hoping he gets a break from this after this escape.
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