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Kuljit Mithra Hardcore

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:36 pm Post subject: Marvel's Daredevil S2E08 Discussion |
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Please use this thread to discuss this episode and any relevant plot points that occurred prior to this one. |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Posts: 1750
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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I mentioned EED for the last episode. I'm glad that's what they're going with. Of coure, Frank Castle doesn't care. I thought it was fitting that it all melted down when he took the stand. On the other hand, it's really tragic that Matt seems to be the cause of so much going wrong. I'd still like things to go right in the end for Nelson *and* Murdock. I liked Frank's explosion to the jury (I also want to point out that thank God he's wearing court clothes. Better late than never. It's fitting, if he was holding out, that he was convinced for this point. Of course, once he's on the stand, he makes up his own mind).
I liked the Hand plot and how it fits in with Elektra. They spent a lot of time to establish she's not Stick and she's her own person. Then, in the end, she slits a kid's throat. Good way to show that maybe she's the same.
Four and a Half Stars. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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Dayle88 Playing to the Camera
Joined: 25 Mar 2015 Posts: 140
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Really great stuff. They've earned the right to embrace the Hand and Stick's backstory. A lot of other shows or creators would shy away with such a dark, 'realistic' tone.
I liked changing Elektra's past to being a part of the Chaste. It gives her all the same character elements and skills without having to take the time to show her own origin and what happened to her. Considering this is a Daredevil show and it's been pretty filled out with plot it was the right choice.
There are some great details throughout the series and I know I've missed a lot. One that I picked up on is when Matt is fighting the ninja in his apartment the fancier moves he has been using to make his way through larger groups don't work against the experienced ninja so he goes back to boxing and throwing the guy into things. Things like that are great extras for people who love martial arts and have an understanding of how fighting actually works. |
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Dimetre Underboss
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1366 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I still find Matt someone with whom it's hard to sympathize. He has been negligent in his duties towards the case he urged the firm to take. I realize he has been negligent in the comics towards Nelson and Murdock, so I guess this series is at least being consistent.
Something I found a little odd is the fact that Matt isn't able to get a read on the Hand agents because they don't have heartbeats. Does that mean they're not alive, or that they're masking their heartbeats? If they're not alive, then Matt shouldn't have any qualms about Elektra or himself killing them. If they're masking their heartbeats, that could just mean they're aware of Matt's powers, so the second scenario is more likely. However, it seemed that the kid at the end had a heartbeat. It's possible that as the kid was injured, he lost the ability to mask his heartbeat. The fact he was able to be in the apartment undetected and hit Matt with an arrow suggests that his heartrate was cloaked at the beginning of the battle. It's a little confusing, but I guess it works.
The cliffhanger was great, but I need to get some sleep.
I think this episode was good, but frustrating. I don't like seeing Matt be so irresponsible towards his duties as an attorney, even though he's been that way in the comics. I don't like seeing Foggy give Matt another chance, only to see Matt squander it by not following Foggy's instructions, especially since Foggy's been the one in the trenches the entire time. I know Matt heard what the policeman/bailiff said to Frank before the testimony, but Matt made no use of it. I know Matt is conflicted this season, and I know there is going to be a schism between him and Foggy, and likely Karen as well. I realize he's human, but I think he could have done better with this Castle case. |
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Dave Wallace Paradiso
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1074 Location: Birmingham, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Dimetre wrote: | I still find Matt someone with whom it's hard to sympathize. He has been negligent in his duties towards the case he urged the firm to take.
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I think this episode was good, but frustrating. I don't like seeing Matt be so irresponsible towards his duties as an attorney, even though he's been that way in the comics. I don't like seeing Foggy give Matt another chance, only to see Matt squander it by not following Foggy's instructions, especially since Foggy's been the one in the trenches the entire time. I know Matt heard what the policeman/bailiff said to Frank before the testimony, but Matt made no use of it. I know Matt is conflicted this season, and I know there is going to be a schism between him and Foggy, and likely Karen as well. I realize he's human, but I think he could have done better with this Castle case. |
Honestly, I think that's how you're meant to be feeling at this point. |
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