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daredevilryan · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: rare trade paperbacks

hi just wondering if anyone knows where i can pick up the tpb's for 'fall of the kingpin' and 'fall from grace'?

thanks! Twisted Evil

Darediva · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject:

Watch on ebay. Probably the easiest way to do it.
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train · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:15 am Post subject:

both are out of print (i think) diva is right about ebay. it's the best way to pick them up, but you may pay a premium for them as they are out of print.

Blind Alley · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject:

I bought the FFG TPB last year on Amazon (used and new books).
I paid it around 20 euros...
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daredevilryan · Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:

great thanks for the tips!

anyone read 'love and war'?

i finished it today. it's weird! the art is cool but what's the ending all about?!!

could anyone explain it to me please?

thanks! Very Happy

StevieG · Flying Blind Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

I recently picked up some of the older trades, and the first of them I read was "Fall from Grace." Gotta say, pretty disappointing. Seems like the typical 90's story to me where the art took precedence over the story and guests stars ran amok (really, Venom and Silver Sable didn't have any place, though Morbius' could be justified as revealing a couple of plot points). Overall it was incredibly confusing and pointless. It seemed to jump all over the place, giving the feeling as if pages were left out (like how DD and Siege were all of a sudden protecting a Hand turncoat, who we had no idea was a turncoat or they were supposed to help him). I didn't quite get why he changed his outfit either. Like, they hinted at it, but it still felt out of nowhere.

Beautiful art, though. I just have to hope "Fall of the Kingpin" is better.

Don't get me wrong, I loved all the other Daredevil I've read, I just assume this one came at a bad time in comics. If I'm missing something, somebody please tell me.

Dimetre · Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject:

Fall of the Kingpin is a lot better than Fall From Grace, in my opinion. Chichester relies a lot on elements from Miller's Born Again, but I think he did a good job. I think he went a bit nuts by the time Fall From Grace came around, and it wasn't long before he started writing as Alan Smithee. Maybe somewhere on this site Kuljit sheds light on what was happening between Marvel and Chichester at the time.

If you can't find the trade paperbacks, I think Chichester's run is pretty easy to find in back issue bins, and not too expensive.

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