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[Marvel Knight]

The poll on Comics Should Be Good is done so here's the final update with the full listing (with point totals followed by first place votes in parenthesis):

1. Spider-Man (Peter Parker) – 2,164 points (103 first place votes)
2. Captain America (Steve Rogers)– 1,616 points (43 first place votes)
3. Daredevil (Matt Murdock)– 1,006 points (22 first place votes)
4. Dr. Doom - 872 points (15 first place votes)
5. The Thing (Ben Grimm) - 850 (12)
6. Hulk – 730 (15 for Joe Fixit, 9 for “Professor Hulk”) (13)
7. Wolverine – 728 (10)
8. Hawkeye – 676 (17)
9. Thor – 605 (12)
10. Cyclops – 604 (13)
11. Iron Man (Tony Stark) – 603 (11)
12. Nightcrawler – 497 (12)
13. Magneto – 465 (7)
14. Dr. Strange – 464 (12 )
15. Silver Surfer – 461 (8 )
16. Beast - 456 (8 )
17. Deadpool - 443 (13)
18. Shadowcat (Kitty Pryde) - 427 (9)
19. The Multiple Man (Jamie Madrox) - 399 (11)
20. Jean Grey (Marvel Girl/Phoenix) - 374 (13)
21. The Punisher – 360 (8 )
22. The White Queen (Emma Frost) – 332 (1)
23. Iron Fist – 325
24. Thanos – 287 (5)
25. She-Hulk – 283 (9)
26. Ultimate Spider-Man – 261 (12)
27 (tie). Sub-Mariner (Namor McKenzie) – 222 (2)
27 (tie). Nova – 222 (6)
29. Nick Fury – 221 (2)
30. Storm – 209 (3)
31 (tie). Colossus – 208 (2)
31 (tie). Galactus – 191 (4)
33. Power Man (Luke Cage) – 190 (1)
34. Adam Warlock – 186 (3)
35. Ms. Marvel – 185
36. Rogue – 183 (2)
37. Invisible Woman (Sue Storm/Richards) – 170 (1)
38. Princess Powerful/Bruiser (Molly Hayes) – 167 (1)
39. Human Torch (Johnny Storm) – 163
40. Ultimate Captain America – 161 (1)
41. Gambit – 147 (5)
42. The Vision – 146
43. Mary Jane Watson – 144
44. Black Panther – 137 (4)
45. Jessica Jones – 134 (3)
46. Iceman – 132 (5)
47. Howard the Duck – 131 (1)
48. J. Jonah Jameson – 130 (2)
49 (tie). Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards) – 128
49 (tie). Bucky/Winter Soldier (James Buchanan Barnes) – 128

Edited: To update list.
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Andrew

[blacktyphoid]

[Marvel Knight]

Aw don't mention it. I actually wish I knew sooner. I would have liked to vote.

Anyway, It does kinda suck that there haven't been other DD characters on the list like the Kingpin, Elektra, etc (personally I would have liked to see Foggy on the list), however there are very few Spidey characters on the list too, except for Jameson and MJ (no Green Goblin, Venom, Doctor Octopus, or Aunt May lol).

Aside from shoo-ins like Spider-Man and Captain America the most 'prominent' characters that have yet to appear (or may not appear) include Professor X (who would be the only X-character in the top 5 if he makes it), Doctor Doom, Moon Kight, and Ghost Rider.
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Andrew

[Blind Alley]

The list has been updated today and Dr Doom ranked 4th.

I suppose DD will be 3rd, behind Cap and Spidey... (he would be first on my list, of course!)
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[Gloria]

[user747]

Daredevil in the top three? Well he had to have got more votes then Hawkeye (why's he number 8 ), Thanos and Nova because I don't even know who the hell Thanos and Nova are.
I'm guessing Captain America and Spider-man are 1 and 2 respectively, and DD is 3.
Is anyone else surprised (if) he's more popular then Wolverine, Hulk, Doom, Magneto, Iron man and the Thing?
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[Francesco]

What if he doesn't make it to the top 3?

my prediction is:

#3 Professor X
#2 Spider-man
#1 Captain America

With our beloved DD remaining overlooked, underestimated and forgotten as always.

[james castle]

How did this list come about? The results look a little wonky to me. The Thing at #5? Really? The Fastastic Four hasn't been a top seller in god knows how long. Is The Thing really that popular? The Beast at 16 is weird too. I love The Beast but is her really that individually popular? The fact that Thanos and She-Hulk round out the top 25 makes me doubt the accuracy/worth of the list.
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[Marvel Knight]

[Blind Alley]

[Marvel Knight]

I updated my first post to show the full rankings now that it's over. DD came in at an impressive #3, and is one of only 3 Marvel character's to get over 1,000 points. Here's the link (including the latest comments): DD at #3
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Andrew

[Gloria]

Yay! Good that Matt got the bronze!!

Two to go... Foggy might still make it (OK, just wishful thinking! )
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"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[blacktyphoid]

Here's a quote from the blogger's description of Daredevil:

"Matt was a basic superhero for many years, during which time he was notably involved with his secretary, Karen Page, and the superhero Black Widow (they even shared his comic for awhile, as Daredevil and Black Widow). Matt’s law partner, and best friend, was Foggy Nelson.

This all changed with the arrival of Frank Miller as the writer of the book."

Here's a quote from one of the voters:

"My favorite Daredevil stuff is of course Frank Miller’s legendary run..."


Still another quote:

"It’s hard to believe that up until the mid 1970’s, Daredevil was seen as a joke character a rip off of Spiderman. Anyone reading the first 100 or so issues would be hard pressed to ever have him as a favourite character..."


It's fascinating to me that the existing conventional wisdom stipulates that in order to demonstrate your credentials as a true Daredevil fan you must state that your "favourite DD stuff was "OF COURSE" Frank Miller's "lengardary run". And that DD was at best "a basic superhero" and at worst "a joke", before the arrival of Frank Miller. And that one voter's

As I've stated elsewhere regarding a review of DD #100, nothing could be further from the truth. Gene Colan's Black Widow period was about a marvelous, bygone era - a superhero stationed in hip San Francisco (not New York) and living in a non-married, sexually charged relationship drawn by an artist who is finally receiving his due as one of all time greatest in comicdom.

I hate it when people are so dismissivle and just plain stupid when it comes to DD's pre-Miller period.

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[Gloria]

BlackTiphoid,

I got hooked by Daredevil during the Miller run. One say s "Daredevil" and then "Miller" and it brings awesomely great memories... and then I get back my old issues for a while and enjoy them again.

But then I have enjoyed quite a lot of Dd stuff that came after Miller , and when I got reprints of the pre-Miller days, I got to like the stories as well... They are indeed different, and some of them, yes, a bit goofy (i.e. Mike Murdock as... Thor! LOL)... but by no means bad to me: they sort of bring the whole picture of the character to me: I love that Brubaker keeps this old stuff in mind when writing Daredevil.

I agree with you that Pre-Miller days shouldn't be dissed... Among other things because I love the stories by Roger MacKenzie just before Miller took the writing chores.

Roger McKenzie's work in DD is waay too underrated: His DD Vs. The Hulk issue was just GRAND... And he created Ben Urich!
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Gloria
Devuélveme el rosario de mi madre y quédate con todo lo demás

"Para la cuesta arriba quiero mi burro, que la cuesta abajo yo me la subo"

[Marvel Knight]

Blacktyphoid, Gloria, I agree. I started reading some of the comments and found myself rolling my eyes more than once.

I find it weird that Daredevil could be considered a joke or irrelevant pre-Frank Miller, yet no one says that about the X-Men pre-Chris Claremont. X-Men was slated for cancellation and even ceased the monthly publication of new stories in favour of early Lee/Kirby reprints until the "All-new, All-different" revitalization in 1975. No one says that X-Men became a joke or irrelevant in the years leading up to that, yet some so-called comic fans are so willing to overlook DD's early history in that way.
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