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I was very happy to pick this up at the comic book store today. The best thing about it though: Deathstalker is back! He was one of the best villains, but for some reason nobody in the past quarter century could see fit to "unkill" him. But, yes indeed, he's back. Hopefully those in the mainstream Marvel Universe will find plans for him. I'd love to see what Brubaker can do with him.

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Oh, man! What Larry Hama did was awesome! He improved the original script, full of banalities and trite dialogue, by something like 200%!

Ian · Flying Blind Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 33

Was this comic actually good writing? Because the art sucked balls. And it had Captain America in it. That's two huge strikes right there. I can't believe people started caring about Captain friggin' America again. Frozen in ice? Bucky? Jesus.
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Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Alright, man. I'll say it.
"Your signature is the funniest thing ever".
Happy now?
Now could you stop making an ass of yourself? Pretty please?

entzauberung · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:01 am Post subject:

Ian · Flying Blind Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 33

Oh man, you know that art was awful. Did you see the page where DD is jumping in all spread eagle? What was that? Something for the ladies? Yeesh... I even overlooked the art and bought the Battlin' Jack series.
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Neilan · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject:

entzauberung · Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject:

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Aniway, Villa did just the pencils, the colorist is Fabio D'Auria (he was apparently left uncredited in the US version). He did an astounding job, IMO.

Kirika · Flying Blind Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 57

I can't say I minded the art too much. It wasn't horrible...it just wasn't good. The story though, is all together just bad. I don't know whether something was lost in translation or what, but there was nothing about this that worked for me.

Ian · Flying Blind Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 33

Did you like how shiny everyone was? Those uniforms were the shiniest!
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"Show me a superhero without a first aid kit, an I'll show you a NUT!" (Daredevil #9)

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

PlanBFromOuterSpace · Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:24 am Post subject:

I'm not sure when this book was originally printed, but it seems like any of the many generic crossover one-shots that littered the mid-90's. Character A is pursuing c-list villain. Character B is also pursuing c-list villain. C-list villain's gimmick leads to a misunderstanding between Character A and Character B, so they fight for a bit before they come to their senses and go after the real threat. Does that sum it up about right?

Also, the book advertises that we'll see Daredevil and Captain America, and that's exactly what you get. Unfortunately, we don't get Matt Murdock or Steve Rogers at all. There really aren't any interesting character bits or even the obligatory quickie retelling of each heroes origin for readers that follow the one character that might need a little brushing up on the other.

There were a couple of things that bugged me about the story aside from the generic nature of it all. As I mentioned above, I can't tell where it fits into the timeline, but really, when's the last time Daredevil was able to just walk right into a police station like that? Has he ever? This is where we could have really used Matt Murdock.

The art was OK, as it seemed more in line with what guys like Steve Epting and Mike Perkins are doing over in Cap, but the coloring wasn't all that great. As someone else pointed out, everything looked pretty glossy, even when it shouldn't have. There's definitely a lighting issue. I don't know if anyone else has ever seen it, but there was a Cap/Wolverine mini series a few years back where the coloring was similar, and it ended up looking like those old Colorform things.

Overall, this book was pretty harmless and inoffensive, no better or worse than the usual generic one-shots from the 90's, but it could have just as easily been a Spider-Man and Wolverine story. It's pretty disappointing to have to see 2 of my favorite characters get so horribly underutilized when their respective solo titles have been pretty stellar the last few years.

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

Howdy boys. Just had a chat with Mr Faraci. Thought of sharing it with you.
He didn't really appreciate that I found his dialogues trite. I'm sorry about that.

I admit I had exaggerated, though, when I said the whole work has been so dramatically improved. It was also a bit unfair, since 99% of those reading these forums cannot know (and didn't need to know, even if it was the case).
It is obvious one may get carried away when criticizing a work in a forum, but I have nothing personal against him. Heck, I'm not a professional writer, and I'm sure I wouldn't be able to write any dialogue.
(In fact, I'm quite sure Brubaker hates my guts for all the criticism I have written about him in this boards in the past).

After all, as the author stated in the interview, dialogues are just a part of what makes the script. Also, he said he writes very detailed scripts, and all of what makes it is completely his in this sense (shots, panel sequences, pacing, story), and couldn't have been different.

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