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Ash-n-Bone Tree of Knowledge

Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 223 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: The Trailer is Finally Here... |
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and is AWESOME!
This has Miller and Bendis written all over it, even shades of Brubaker and Nocenti.
I think as DD fans, we can count ourselves very lucky. |
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Sparko Flying Blind
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:26 am Post subject: |
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This looks bloody amazing! |
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train Guardian Devil
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:47 am Post subject: |
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It does look pretty cool. I watched it twice. Trying to get an idea of where the series will take the viewers. In the article that accompanies the trailer there is a pic of Karen Page, she looks pretty rough. So I assume they are skipping the naive Karen and head straight into the 'ways of the world' Karen. Something that did jump out to me. At some point, you hear a man's voice say "Don't say his name." Wasn't that a line from Karen in the Born Again story? Not sure if I'm reading too much into that or not.
I did like the overall feel of the trailer. Looked good, street level violence and a hero that gets beat up. Of course, a trailer is nothing more that a commercial to convince you to watch. I think that even if I wasn't a comic book reader, I'd give this series a go. So from that perspective, I think it's a hit. I just hope it lives up to my high expectations. |
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McFly Flying Blind
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I loved it, too.
was kinda hoping they'd ditch the religious crap a bit, but oh well.
I do love to see how some of those shots are composed. as a film student I tend to look out for those things. Fisk in front of that blank canvas is genius. as is matt lying on the wet concrete bleeding... that just screams daredevil to me. awesome. _________________ Deodorant Cant Fix Ugly. |
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Daredevil24 Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yes!No sign of Mark Waid's DD!Trailer was awesome!I love the religious part of DD. |
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Guardian-Devil Tree of Knowledge

Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 256 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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This is it guys!!! I still can't believe it!!!! Can i be more excited?? I doubt it!!!! _________________
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Posts: 1750
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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train wrote: | It does look pretty cool. I watched it twice. Trying to get an idea of where the series will take the viewers. In the article that accompanies the trailer there is a pic of Karen Page, she looks pretty rough. So I assume they are skipping the naive Karen and head straight into the 'ways of the world' Karen. Something that did jump out to me. At some point, you hear a man's voice say "Don't say his name." Wasn't that a line from Karen in the Born Again story? Not sure if I'm reading too much into that or not. |
I remember "Don't think his name" said Ben Urich in Born Again. Could be what you're thinking of.
This is promising. Dark and gritty, yes, but that's a perfectly acceptable version of Daredevil. Definitely very much in the mold of BMB. Regarding the church stuff: my hope is it isn't a reoccurring feature, but I have no problem with it appearing. It was, imo, an addition by Kevin Smith, but I don't think it was an entirely crazy addition (and it was explained in-story as something motivated by the things going on in his life). But the scene itself does a good job of creating context for everything else - not only in the trailer but in the entire arc. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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rgj Hardcore
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1580 Location: The Rio Grande Valley of Texas
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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The trailer was okay. But, I see some of the same movie pitfalls. The overblown Catholicism in regards to Matt's practice of it, which really only started with Kevin Smith and the awful Guardian Devil. And, while I understand the world of Daredevil is dark and gritty and violent, there is an over the top bruised and battered Matt. Look, I know Matt lives in a violent world, but please, let's not have a shower scene with Matt's body replete with scars and losing a tooth. I obviously will give the show a chance, but I hope it's better than the trailer. _________________ rgj |
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McFly Flying Blind
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Mike Murdock wrote: | Regarding the church stuff: my hope is it isn't a reoccurring feature, but I have no problem with it appearing. It was, imo, an addition by Kevin Smith, but I don't think it was an entirely crazy addition (and it was explained in-story as something motivated by the things going on in his life). But the scene itself does a good job of creating context for everything else - not only in the trailer but in the entire arc. |
I think this actually started with Frank Miller... Matts mother being a nun and all that christian symbolism in Born Again is really obvious. It works great there, since it defines so much of Matts mindset in that story. everything after that, especially Kevin Smiths stuff felt completely shallow in that regard. Its mostly used by writers just to tick off a box in the "how to write daredevil" manual. to me, Matt should know better and finally get rid of that crap. Marvel is so full of gods and devils and he already met so many of them. I just dont like it.. but that might be just me  _________________ Deodorant Cant Fix Ugly. |
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train Guardian Devil
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Murdock wrote: | train wrote: | Wasn't that a line from Karen in the Born Again story? Not sure if I'm reading too much into that or not. |
I remember "Don't think his name" said Ben Urich in Born Again. Could be what you're thinking of. |
D'oh! You are right. I might lose my Daredevil card for messing that up.
As far as the whole Catholicism thing...yeah it was started by Miller and then Smith went headlong into it. The way I see it, it grounds the character. It makes him more human. |
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rgj Hardcore
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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No, McFly.
Obviously, Frank Miller introduced Sister Maggie as Matt's mom. But never did we have Matt being a practicing Catholic, going to confession, or even feeling the need to confess until the god awful Guardian Devil. The movie and this series seem to have the character revolve around this theme. And, that truly isn't classic Daredevil. _________________ rgj |
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james castle Devil in Cell-Block D
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1999 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Matt's mom being a nun and Miller and Mazz using Christian images, etc (when creating the comic in real life) does not make the fictional character of Matt Murdock religious.
Trailer looks awesome though. _________________ JC
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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train wrote: | Mike Murdock wrote: | train wrote: | Wasn't that a line from Karen in the Born Again story? Not sure if I'm reading too much into that or not. |
I remember "Don't think his name" said Ben Urich in Born Again. Could be what you're thinking of. |
D'oh! You are right. I might lose my Daredevil card for messing that up.
As far as the whole Catholicism thing...yeah it was started by Miller and then Smith went headlong into it. The way I see it, it grounds the character. It makes him more human. |
Technically, Matt being Catholic predates Miller, but don't ask me to remember who the writer was (it was a very short-lived writer or one-off writer). Miller made his mom very Catholic (obviously) so Matt would presumably be Catholic too. Smith is the first to show him going to church, but, with the exception of the letter in the beginning, it was portrayed even then as something out of character.
That being said, I don't have a problem with him going to church in a moment of profound crisis of conscience. As long as every episode doesn't feature it, I'm fine with it happening in the show. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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MarcWagz Flying Blind

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get why everyone must always say that daredevil is "a hero who gets beat up" or a "real street level hero"
or "he's not thor or Captain america"
I get that he isn't thor, but in the comics matt is more than enough to hold his own against captain america at least for a while.
And aside from that this trailer and the original movie made it seem like he has trouble fighting thugs.
How on earth is he even going to be any use to the Defenders (consisting of Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones) if he has trouble beating up a couple thugs?
And it looks like they are gimping his senses too.
In all of the interviews I haven't heard a thing about the radar sense even existing. Just that he has ""enhanced senses" and that in the show you will be able to see when he uses them.
Aside from those complaints the show looks good but I don't like how marvel thinks they have to make daredevil the company weenie. |
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DesignDevil Playing to the Camera
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 157 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Actually Frank Miller himself had Matt going to a priest in Elektra Lives Again, which is an amazing book, long before Smith. Even though that story is out of continuity, I think Smith was drawing from the fact that however overt or not in the stories, Miller probably always imagined Matt as at least a lapsed practicing Catholic. Not to say Smith didn't absurdly dial it up to 11 and hit everyone over the head with it.
Like it or not the Catholicism isn't going anywhere. Even everyones golden boy Mark Waid had Matt talking about sins and answering to St. Peter when he admitted to being Daredevil.
And yeah, that trailer is amazing and if thats truly the tone the series will have, then it will be everything I want from a Daredevil series. |
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