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The Overlord · Paradiso Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095

What is your opinion on Daredevil being Outed?

noypi-me · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:05 am Post subject:

the outing was excellently executed IMO. so i'm totally for it especially now that it's being passed to an equally great writter.
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Murdock Bell · Flying Blind Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 87

I'm with noypi.

It was handled excellently without being cheapened, and is being passed on to equally (if not moreso) capable hands with Brubaker.

If the creative teams involved were different, my opinion might be as well...but that goes for any story idea, really.

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

The outing of DD was a fantastic story idea, which was done before Bendis. Razz

Still, I definitely approve of Bendis's DD outing and I think it may end up being one of the most important stories in comics. Furthermore, I absolutely love the way Bendis, Maleev, Hollingsworth, etc. did the outing and much of the aftermath.

Unfortunately, Bendis lost steam in almost all of his work, in about mid-late 2004. (I think this may be due in part to his Avenger's/New Avengers work, which was outstanding, but likely drew his energies away from other books.) Around this time, I feel his DD suffered greatly and only marginally recovered once in a while (i.e. issues #81 and #75 come to mind). While the overall story still turned out (Matt being outed, winning a lawsuit in denial, arrested, imprisoned, etc. all simply for being a superhero), much of it was done so without care or quality writing.

Of course, like I said, I LOVE Bendis's pre-Widow DD and I love what he was trying to do with DD since then. So, this weekend, I'll reread all his work to get the big picture.

CyberGhostface · Playing to the Camera Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 109

I think DD was one of the few Bendis titles that never really hit a downspot. There were some times (namely how Golden Age and Decalogue both changed the plot midway) where I was disappointed, but overall I really enjoyed his run.

I think if Bendis had pulled a Kevin Smith and ran away for the next writer to pick up the pieces, it'd be one thing. But he did a fine job sticking with the storyline.

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

train · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

i'm really mixed in my opinion. like BENDIS! said in the documentary "Men Without Fear", the whole secret identity was so overused and never taken to the logical conclusion. in a way, i'm glad that the story has been completed, so it can't be done again. at the same time, i'm going to miss Matt Murdock Attorney At Law.

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject:

I refuse to comment on this until I, at the very least, read Bendis' last issue. It sounds like Bru is going to carry on this approach. The outing itself was a brilliant read, but where does this go and how does this title continue after? What does it mean, not only for Matt, but the supporting characters?

This outing may very will result in the direct cause of a death. It most likely will be. If this death isn't handled well, then my opinion towards this outing might change drastically.

It is hard to have an opinion when the results of this outing are still unknown to us.

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mhs_111 · Flying Blind Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 24

CyberGhostface · Playing to the Camera Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 109

I'd really hate that. It'd seem like a huge cop out.

daredevil99x · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject:

I think the outing was very well handled. It is one of the best comic stories ever, but I almost prefer that it would have never happened. There's no way it can go back to being a secret now, and now no one who knows Matt is safe. I don't envy Brubaker for trying to follow up this one. But I can't wait to read it.
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the gael · Playing to the Camera Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 119

well, the outing was perfectly executed in " out ", one of the best and most emotionnal DD story ever. Bendis did a very fine job in it. It was not only completely realistic but also gave allways the opportunity to bring the genie back to the bottle after the writer has finished is job.

But after hardcore, Bendis ( to busy ), wasn't as good. While " Out " was near perfect, his late DD stories weren't as good.

I have to say that I was very worried by the last changes. I was worried that Bendis will leave to Brubaker a mess that he would let him without the opportunity to bring Matt as a lawyer ( And that's a side of the character that you should never suppress from the book forever without killing the character )
That's why the whole " Jack Battling " thing sucked so much. I hate this character with passion for having no purpose, being nothing, having no signification.

I was also worried by the " oz " side. Never liked the jail movies.
But now, knowing that bendis wrote the last issue with brubaker's stories in his head, I am more confident. After all, this may be a good story...

Only hope that the deal that Matt will make will be with the FBI or the Shield. Maybe that's the point and Matt is the one to switch the side during Civil War : He made a deal with the government to get out of jail and live to regret it because he wants to keep secret identities for heroes... I can see that.

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