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DDmikeMN Ninja
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 800 Location: Evanston, IL
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: DareDevil #86 SPOILERS |
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What did you think of the new issue? _________________ 2006 Pull List Awards
james castle wrote: | And the KICK ASS! award gores to DDmikeMN for Battle Pope. Kick ass! |
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Clayton Blind Love Redemption
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 772 Location: Beautiful British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have a few words concering this issue for now. I'll let you all deal with it.
From the cover right to the very last panel, this is the single greatest ongoing issue of Daredevil I have EVER read since the relaunch.
Seriously.
C. _________________ Love is blindness, I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night around me |
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MercifulAvatar Playing to the Camera
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 117 Location: NEO, US
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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This book made me howl and shake my fists in twisted glee. This is one of those issues that gives me hope for the super hero genre. This book made me glad I (still) read comics.
#86 reaffirmed my decision to keep Daredevil on my pull list when I've dumped every other Marvel title.
"Nice work" to all on the creative team. You guys rock like satan. _________________ Poser |
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train Guardian Devil
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 659 Location: Hell's Pantry
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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i'll second the last 2 posts. "Remember who you are, Matt" fantastic. the previous 2 issues were really just OK in my book, but like Clayton said, it was one of the best DD issues written. |
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Darediva Wake Up

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1208 Location: Hell's Kitchen South, Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Holy smoke!
I am so glad that it was MILLA who said to Matt, just before the feces hit the rotary oscillator, "Remember who you ARE, my love".
Maybe his revenge was for Foggy, but I think once this blows over, he will realise just how much those words also stirred him up.
No doubt in my mind now, not that there was ever much, that Brubaker and Lark are going to go down in history with their run on DD. _________________ Alice
Those who throw dirt merely lose ground. |
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vtsoxfan7 Playing to the Camera

Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 182 Location: The 'noke, VA
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely loved this issue! From Milla's visit, to Matt saving the warden, to Kingpin encorporating Bullseye into the escape, to Matt taking Bulls and Kingpin out of commission (for the time moment), to the final page with Punisher this was just a great read. I've already been through it twice and will most likely get through it again before letting a co-worker scope it out tomorrow.
Brubaker's Captain America is wonderful, but his first DD arc just rocks...keeps getting better with every issue! _________________ https://twitter.com/tburnham7
http://tburnham7.blogspot.com/
'So I've got THAT going for me...which is nice' - Bill Murray, Caddyshack |
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MercifulAvatar Playing to the Camera
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 117 Location: NEO, US
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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And another thing: I've already decided I'm going to buy this TPB when it comes out so I can read the story over and over (especially #86!) and not disturb my precious issues.
I have heretofore been an issue guy with DD but this arc is the exception to the rule. It is that good. _________________ Poser |
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Stephan Humanity's Fathom
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I can only echo these sentiments. This was a truly exceptional issue, and a testament to the ability of Mr. Brubaker. The artwork was superb, and the cover was memorable. One adverse criticism: some of the character's actions were contrary to logic. Did Fisk REALLY believe that Matt would allow BULLSEYE to accompany them?! Bullseye?! Preposterous. Fisk could not POSSIBLY be that obtuse. And Becky escorting Milla to the prison - the very prison that Foggy was (supposedly) slain in?! Utterly absurd. Neither Becky (nor any other rational adult) would endanger another innocent in the wake of Foggy's death! Perhaps there is some explanation for the character's perplexing behavior (is Killgrave the criminal mastermind manipulating events?).
Nonetheless, a phenomenal issue. |
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Clayton Blind Love Redemption
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 772 Location: Beautiful British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Stephan wrote: | Did Fisk REALLY believe that Matt would allow BULLSEYE to accompany them?! Bullseye?! Preposterous. Fisk could not POSSIBLY be that obtuse. |
Probably not Stephan, but that was the risk Fisk had to take. Bullseye had to eliminate the gun players. Essentially, Bullseye saved both of their lives in there. No one else could of done it. Fisk would of died otherwise.
Desperate situations call for desparate actions. This is exactly what we saw in this issue and it was entirely believable because of it. _________________ Love is blindness, I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night around me
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Clayton Blind Love Redemption
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Stephan wrote: | Becky escorting Milla to the prison - the very prison that Foggy was (supposedly) slain in?! Utterly absurd. Neither Becky (nor any other rational adult) would endanger another innocent in the wake of Foggy's death! Perhaps there is some explanation for the character's perplexing behavior (is Killgrave the criminal mastermind manipulating events?).
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Yes, this is was somewhat absurd. However, I thought that the payoff was well worth it. "Remember who you ARE, my love." This coming from Milla was critical. (Plus, I like her a lot! )
By the way, another Killgrave tale would be great!
C. _________________ Love is blindness, I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night around me |
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Darediva Wake Up

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1208 Location: Hell's Kitchen South, Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Stephan, I take it the violence in this issue didn't bother you, since Matt wasn't on the bloody receiving end? This issue had more violence per page than any we've seen in a long time. _________________ Alice
Those who throw dirt merely lose ground. |
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Silent Bob Flying Blind
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 13 Location: ME
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I found it hard to believe that Bullseye wouldn't have just killed Matt upfront. But it was a pretty good issue. I just can't wait for Matt to get out of prison and on with his life. |
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Clayton Blind Love Redemption
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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newsarama.com just added an "up to date" feature on Daredevil and in particular this issue. Check it out.
I post as "PaulCrocker" (of Queen & Country).
C. _________________ Love is blindness, I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night around me |
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Clayton Blind Love Redemption
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Silent Bob wrote: | I found it hard to believe that Bullseye wouldn't have just killed Matt upfront. |
I think he would have, but as I have said before, desparate situations call for desparate actions. I think they (Matt, Fisk, Lester) realized that they needed one another at least until the attack on them ended.
As well, it may of been part of the conditions for Lester's release by Fisk. "Become my number 1 again. Just don't kill Matt ...yet." A statement like this from Fisk would be attractive to Lester with the knowledge that he could simply kill Matt the second that they escaped.
C. _________________ Love is blindness, I don't want to see
Won't you wrap the night around me |
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DDmikeMN Ninja
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 800 Location: Evanston, IL
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Back when Bendis/Maleev left the book, I gave Brubaker/Lark six months to prove I should keep reading this book. If I didn't say it, I thought it and definitely meant it. My hope was they would come through.
DareDevil is, for better or worse, the story of five people; Matt Murdock, Wilson Fisk, Foggy Nelson, Bullseye and whomever is the damsel of the moment. The best stories come from finding the drama between those five points. Miller's contribution of focusing on that tight circle is just as great as how he made the book more gritty and realistic.
This issue hits all five of those points and hits them hard. Foggy's memory fuels Matt's rage, Fisk uses Bulls to facilitate their escape and then it's Milla's words which bring him back to rationality. What more can you want out of an issue?
Well, I'll see you guys at issue #88. My fears about Bru/Lark coasting off the inertia of Bendis/Maleev were put aside with issue 86. This was the new creative team's opportunity to set off in their own direction with a burst and that they did. _________________ 2006 Pull List Awards
james castle wrote: | And the KICK ASS! award gores to DDmikeMN for Battle Pope. Kick ass! |
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