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DDmikeMN · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject:

Why would Bullseye "automatically" kill Matt again? I know there's something humiliating about the same guy whupping your butt for years. But I was always under the impression that Bulls' hated Matt for professional, not personal reasons.
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Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

The Marvel Knights era has been unkind to the once-mighty Wilson Fisk, has it not? Fisk was shot multiple times by the brother of his deceased custodian, then plummeted hundreds of feet into a river. Shortly thereafter, he was shot and blinded by Echo. Later, he was impaled with knives by disgruntled associates, abandoned by his estranged wife, rendered penniless, savagely beaten by DD and imprisoned. Now, an errant bullet strikes him in the leg! Bad karma, perhaps?

Forrest · Lowlife Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 1439

Well, I got my issue one day later than usual because I went to Superman, right after work, yesterday. (It was SO GOOD!!! Cool

Anyway, everyone beat me to my thoughts on this issue: perhaps the best vol. 2 issue, and among the greatest DD issues ever. (Maybe I exageratted some previously posted opinions.)

If I were to reserve myself from the initial high of reading this issue and my bias in favor of all things Brubaker, I'd still say this issue is tied with #15 and #32 for my favorite DD vol. 2 issue.

Brubaker's DD has the grit of Bendis and Miller, the fearlessness and power of Chichester, all with the epic tone and pace of... well, Brubaker! Very Happy

Seriously, in my opinion, this writer is going to leave a more important mark on DD than Miller did.
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Solid Snake PAC · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject:

I have to agree...Brubaker is a natural at this Crime Noir stuff. I liked Bendis on DD, but you could tell he was really trying to get it....and he did but it took him a couple issues in every arc to get it. With Brubaker he understands that type of enviroment, situations, and the excellant Drama in Crime Noir off the bat. I must say...noboby's been this impressive when new guys are brought in on a comic unlike Lark and Brubaker. I can't think of any...say for Miller.

Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

#86 was stellar, I agree. The faulty judgement of some of the characters in #86, however, continues to puzzle me. Becky's ill-advised, foolhardy decision to escort Milla to the prison, for example. How could Becky be so unthinking? And Fisk assumed that Matt would join forces with Bullseye?! Bullseye, the man who slaughtered Karen and injured Sister Maggie?! Fisk seldom miscalculates (his current predicament notwithstanding). How, then, could he have made such a blunder? Carelessness on the part of Brubaker, or is there some alternative explanation?

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Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:

Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

Hello Clayton! But what, exactly, would have ensued had they succeeded in escaping the prison? Could The Kingpin, Bullseye and DD have coexisted even for a nanosecond outside prison walls? Highly improbable, given the enmity between Lester (last name still undisclosed) and Matthew. Matt has collaborated with Fisk in times past, but he would NEVER knowingly join forces with Bullseye. Either Fisk intended to have Matt slain subsequent to the escape, or he made a major (and very uncharacteristic) miscalculation. Or - perhaps Fisk (and the seemingly irrational Becky and Milla, for that matter) are under the influence of a cunning villan with persuasive powers.

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:

Oh I'm pretty positive that someone would of been shoved off the helicopter somewhere over the water. Twisted Evil

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Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

Hmm...Killgrave is a duplicitous, devious individual (remember the harm he inflicted on Heather Glenn's family in the 70s). He could very well be the culprit. If Killgrave is indeed the guilty party, it would explain the perplexing behavior of some of players in this drama. Why did the FBI Director abruptly (and inexplicably) become a DD antagonist? His Perhaps Killgrave "persuaded" him that DD was a menace.

MacTemple · Flying Blind Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 1

I think Fisk thinking Matt would go along with letting Bullseye come with them was a bit weak, maybe. But Becky Blake and Mila showing up didn't seem that out of character. Reading the scene, Milla says she insisted, and she is the client's wife. Becky even said that Ryker's beefed up their security since Foggy's death. It's like when someone gets food poisoning at Jack in the Box, from that point on, that's probably the safest Jack in the Box to eat at, because they're going to be extra careful. Rykers is a federal prison, so they're going to have lawyers visiting clients every day. Plus the guard who got Foggy killed is dead. I don't see that as that big a deal, Becky and Mila showing up. It's not like they know there's going to be a riot.

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DDmikeMN · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject:

Last time I saw Purple Man was at the breakout at The Raft. I thought Luke Cage beat him up and he was one of the characters who was recaptured already. I would chalk the FBI director's attitude to the anti-heros sentiment which lead to the Registration Act in "Civil War".
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The Overlord · Paradiso Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095

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