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Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

Cap is gay? Does Bucky know? This would explain why Cap ditched (the incredibly attractive) Diamondback all those years ago! Yes - the late Mark Gruenwald penned "Streets of Poison." His tenure on Captain America was a remarkable one. Incidentally, when Matt attempted to explain his liason with Mary to Karen ("but she was Typhoid Mary...") in DD Vol. #1 #294, Karen didn't buy it. Neither do I.

Dave Wallace · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:02 am Post subject:

fox_limbo · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 335

What's more sensual than the sense of touch? Cool

Dimetre · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: A

I give it an A.

As Dave Wallace pointed out, the secrety identity outting plot had been going on for 5+ years. It was played out, and had been explored to death. Now his identity is secrety again, and we can move on to other issues. Amen and hallelujah!

I loved the scene between Matt and Fisk. When that scene began a voice in my head said, "Matt, what the hell are you doing?" But then he explained himself -- he is taking responsility for his actions. He is willing to own up the part he played in turning Vanessa into what she became. It's even better by the fact that he didn't even have to do this. It's something he chose to do. Add in Matt's comment about how tired he is of lying, and Matt is suddenly noble again. No longer the asshole Bendis called him. Matt hasn't been this noble since the start of all the secret identity crap.

As for mourning Karen, I think Stephan is alone in thinking that Matt has properly mourned her. After Karen was killed, Matt ran to Maya Lopez, went after Kate Vinokur, and married Milla. He had never taken the time be alone and take stock of himself, which is really the only way to let someone go.

I have to ask, what is a nervous breakdown really? It's been stated that Matt suffered nervous breakdowns after the deaths of Elektra, Heather, Glorianna, and Karen. If a nervous breakdown means he was distraught and his decisions were affected accordingly, then I guess he suffered nervous breakdowns. The term sounds more serious than that, though. It sounds like your nervous system breaks down. Maybe the term is simply overused.

Nervous breakdown or not, Matt has simply not taken the time or done the work to properly mourn Karen. It seems like he has been actually avoiding it. Getting married? That never sat right with me, and it certainly doesn't look like it's going to last. The perfume was a perfect device to show that he has never moved on.

Regarding Fisk losing his American citizenship, I don't mind at all. The Kingpin has been overused in Volume 2. For years practically every writer on Daredevil has had the Kingpin be the source of Matt's misery. He's like a crutch. Kudos to Brubaker for taking him out of the toybox. I think by removing the Kingpin, Brubaker is giving himself a challenge and is allowing the comic to move forward. I think he's up for it.

Did the issue play out a little too quickly? Perhaps, but it's amazing that it all played out as well as it did in such a small amount of space.

mattscottbaker · Flying Blind Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 5

Hi everyone, this is my first post.

I agree with most of you in that 93 does in fact seem like a reset button. But I don't mind. Though DD's identity-outing problems will continue forever and ever (is there anybody that DOESN'T know at this point?), I'm glad that this particular struggle is over, and really I'm glad to see the Fisk fam out of the picture (at least for now). Kingpin's character needs to evolve a bit.

However, was anybody else a little bit upset with the ending? Lily getting on the plane to New York City? uuuuuuggggghhhhhh

I enjoy matt's emotional struggles and all, but for once, and please forgive me, but for now I'd really like to see DD get back into protecting hell's kitchen and BEATING UP BAD GUYS!!!!!! please lay off the soap opera junk for a few issues.

Also, here's a question. Did Lily's pheromone-perfume make men think of their happiest memory involving any women, or was it specifically meant to remind men of women that they were romantically involved with?

Sandman · Flying Blind Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 27

Lily's pheromone perfume did not trigger based on romantic interactions with women, but more on a level just connected to happy moments with mowen. -If that's not the case, we have to worry about Matador saying Lily reminded him of his mother.[/quote]

rgj · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject:

I would also guess that Lily's return is what the solicitation meant by "the woman from Matt's past that derails his life." I guess it should have read: very recent past!

rgj

The Overlord · Paradiso Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095

I don't think the reset button has been hit persay. Doubt has been cast on whether Matt is really DD or not, but its not like there won't be many will still suspect that Matt is DD, like the reporter in the press conference.

Also consider that half of DD's rogues are paranoid psychopaths. Guys like Bullseye and Purple Man are paranoid to believe that Matt somehow faked the note that proves he isn't DD. Plus they are psychopathic enough to try and kill Matt just in case he is DD. If they were 90% sure that Matt was not DD, they would kill Matt anyway to hedge their bets. If Matt wasn't DD they would have killed an innocent man, but so what, they do that for kicks every day.

mattscottbaker · Flying Blind Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 5

ugh that would be extremely upsetting. i was really hoping sister maggie would show up and come clean...

Stephan · Humanity's Fathom Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 303

I can only echo the above-mentioned sentiments with respect to Lily's imminent return - unless, of course, Lily is not who she appears to be.

train · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject:

at the risk of sounding like i have a "man-crush"....i hope that brubaker is on this title for a very long time. i am really enjoying this book. please keep up the good work.

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

Clayton Blind Love · Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

I can't wait for the arc focusing on Matt's taste.

Matt - "Milla, your pizza is incredible! I could eat this every night. I can't believe this isn't take out."

Milla - . o O (Oh Matt, it is take out. I don't think I can keep this lying up anymore. Why can't Matt tell I'm lying?)

Milla runs off crying

Matt - . o O (Why does she run off crying like that everytime we have pizza? Can't she take a compliment? This pepperoni is just incredible! Its so spicy that makes my other senses numb. I have to find out what she does to the pepperoni taste this perfect.)

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