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blacktyphoid
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| Francesco wrote: | Damn, isn't this whole "Sex with Skrulls" event a real rip-off.
In order to follow it you must also read all the related "tie-in" topics. |
Just like buying Spider-Man in the '70s, '80s & '90s. They often made you buy Amazing, Spectacular, Web of and even Marvel Team-Up in order to keep pace with the unfolding developments of a particular storyline.
Mind you, in our case, I'm having a hard enough time as is keeping up with The Amazing Jumonji!
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tmckenna
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Could Echo be a Skrull? |
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| jumonji wrote: | At least according to a theory by one Marvel fan...
So I was reading up on Secret Invasion today (since I want to have some kind of clue about what's happening in the Marvel U and whether this "big event" is worth checking out or not). A series of clicks away from Wikipedia's Secret Invasion page I ended up reading some theory someone had about Echo being a Skrull. Based on what? Well according to this guy, the number of conversations she seems to be having in various books while facing away from the speaker (which I noticed quite a bit of in Parts of a Hole as well...) has lead some fans to suspect that she might be a Skrull. It's either that or the artists are goofing up over and over again. |
Hey, I am *probably* the one who came up with that theory. (I post under the name killerbass over at the CBR message boards.)
For the record, before I posted I went back five or six issues of New Avengers and it happened in just about every issue. (This was at least three months ago now...)
You know what the funniest part of this whole story is?
I actually got to meet the artist, Lenil Yu, and got so star struck that I forgot to ask him about my theory.
Anyway -- just my two cents,
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jumonji
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Could Echo be a Skrull? |
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| tmckenna wrote: | | Hey, I am *probably* the one who came up with that theory. (I post under the name killerbass over at the CBR message boards.) |
Wow, now I'm feeling star struck! 
| tmckenna wrote: | | For the record, before I posted I went back five or six issues of New Avengers and it happened in just about every issue. (This was at least three months ago now...) |
That's very interesting... So, Skrull or artist's mistake? I guess we'll know soon enough. Too bad you didn't get a chance to ask Yu.
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Francesco
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Apparently, even Greg Pak and John Romita Jr made this "mistake" when depicting Echo during the World War Hulk event.
I have thought of this possibility, too. It seems odd, though, that aliens apparently capable of such supposed levels of infiltration and also of emulating even vast superpowers (like those of Black Bolt) would make such a blunder of ignoring Echo's deafness.
My money is on the Night Nurse to be a skrull. |
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Neilan
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I don't expect Echo to be a Skrull, for a few reasons. First of all, she's not a big name or a key character. There's not much shock value or imo, even plain interest in her turning out to be skrully. What would be the point? If she was, why did she kill Skrull-Elektra? And why would Elektra kill Echo prior to that?
It makes sense for the Skrulls to replace Elektra, as that would give them a way to take over the Hand and then the Yakuza. Of course, the timeline is a bit suspect. When was Elektra taken over? Before she had the Hand protect Foggy when he was in witness protection? Why would Skrull-Elektra care about Foggy? Was it before she helped Shield and Wolverine thwart Hydra? I would think Hydra's plan would have helped the Skrulls and they would have a vested interest in seeing it succeed.
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My money is on the Night Nurse to be a skrull. |
That makes sense, as she is in a unique position to get to many of the heroes, especially when they are vulnerable. It's a great way to keep tabs on Doc Strange and the 2 times that he magically tested the New Avengers to see if they could be trusted and they passed, the Night Nurse was not there.
My money is on the Hood. His bid to take over the super villains would be valuable in attacking the heroes and his upgrade from borderline %$*&-up to king of the villains is such a step up in class, that it wouldn't make sense to me if he wasn't a Skrull. And it was never explained who/what the "demon" was that he killed to get the cloak and shoes that give him his powers. If they were Skrullish plants, that would make a lot of sense.
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jumonji
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| Neilan wrote: | | I don't expect Echo to be a Skrull, for a few reasons. First of all, she's not a big name or a key character. There's not much shock value or imo, even plain interest in her turning out to be skrully. |
Well, isn't the whole problem with Secret Invasion (which I still may decide to check out) that none of the really powerful characters with their own solo books will turn out to be Skrulls? Without really having an opinion on whether Echo might be a Skrull or not, the fact that she's not a major player makes it more likely that she would be, as I see it. I'd love for Spidey to be a Skrull, that would explain so much...
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Neilan
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| jumonji wrote: | | Well, isn't the whole problem with Secret Invasion (which I still may decide to check out) that none of the really powerful characters with their own solo books will turn out to be Skrulls? Without really having an opinion on whether Echo might be a Skrull or not, the fact that she's not a major player makes it more likely that she would be, as I see it. I'd love for Spidey to be a Skrull, that would explain so much... |
I used to have a boss who was fond of saying, "Don't bring me problems, bring me solutions!" That really has nothing to do with what you said, but it used to bug me because I was coming to him to resolve a problem of his own making.
The thing is, I don't want there to be problems with S.I. I want it to make sense and be entertaining. Making Echo a Skrull doesn't do it for me. But I really like the Spidey idea.
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jumonji
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| Neilan wrote: | | The thing is, I don't want there to be problems with S.I. I want it to make sense and be entertaining. Making Echo a Skrull doesn't do it for me. But I really like the Spidey idea. |
I really want it do be good too, and I find the whole idea of it rather intriguing. I believe that Marvel can put out good stuff, and I expect to be entertained, I just fear that it might be like Civil War: good on paper, lacking in terms of execution. Having said that, I would like for it to be pretty major with a few upsets here and there, and in that context I agree that making Echo a Skrull isn't something that makes your pulse race with excitement. But, making Spidey is Skrull is something that might make a whole lot of fans stand up and cheer.
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