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Guardian-Devil

Word has it that the script for the planned reboot of Daredevil is such a mess, the studio are now on the hunt for a new writer! Hit the jump for a few more details on The Man Without Fear's troubled journey back to the big screen.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=58646
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Ash-n-Bone · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:25 am Post subject:

Wow, I wonder if this is true? Im 50/50 on this one because the source is just one guy.

However, it would explain why the film is taking so long to develop. If Kane's script is that terrible, they should hire someone like Hossein Amini (Drive, 47 Ronin).

Guardian-Devil · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:59 am Post subject:

It looks like this is true cause we have a new guy writing the script, David James Kelly. Does anybody knows who he is?? I googled him but nothin...
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Ash-n-Bone · Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject:

did not see this coming at all. I have no idea who this guy is, the only thing I can find is that he revised the Akira movie Hollywood was doing.

This is a good thing I suppose though. Hopefully things will start moving now. I wonder what Kane did so bad? I do recall Slade tweeting that he did a really good job with the script, but I guess it was just something to keep us happy.

Guardian-Devil · Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:04 am Post subject:

Maybe at the time he was doing a good job with the script but in the end it was not as good as they wanted... We'll see!!! *fingerscrossed*
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theunrealstudios · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject:

if it's being re-written and the director liked it then that means Fox execs disliked it or possibly even hated it to warrant a rewrite. Now Fox doesn't have the greatest track record for CBM decisions (that being said First Class and X2 is still gold by them) but i think a rewrite is in our best interest if only to sharpen this movie. Maybe it's because Born again style of a script is shallow if you have no emotional attachment to the protagonist and would be a wasted opportunity. we all agree it's better sequel material and hopefully (in my opinion) we get a proper origin movie that doesn't skip the best parts of the origin (anything by Frank in short). let's look at it from a tragedy writing point of view: you need to have a protagonist rise before you can have the protagonist fall so why would they use movie one to rush to the best run of the characters madness? (well Bendis was my favorite point of his madness but that's the not the point). Point being is we've waited nearly 10 years for a new movie so i'm sure we can wait alittle longer for a decent rewrite.

dsugar · Flying Blind Joined: 10 Jun 2011 Posts: 39

There are so many great Daredevil stories but I wouldn't go with another Miller/Kingpin movie. I think the V2 Mysterio story, Shadowland (seeing a good guy turn evil on screen, The Hand) or origin story yellow transitioning to red. Unfortunately I don't have any faith in Fox.

Dimetre · Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:29 am Post subject:

Pete · Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:30 am Post subject:

If they're going to steer clear of a Kingpin/Bullseye reboot, which I think they should, ( as the Directors Cut of the 2003 film was fine) then I can only think of one DD villan who it could be. The whole thing about 'The Man Without Fear' vs Fear itself has yet to reach its full potential in the book, but could work well on screen.

So, although there are possible similarities to the Scarecrow character in the Batman Begins movie, I'd go for Mr Fear

dsugar · Flying Blind Joined: 10 Jun 2011 Posts: 39

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Ash-n-Bone · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:06 am Post subject:

I agree, Mr Fear is way to similar to Scarecrow for the masses to enjoy. Same with Gladiator, all viewers will see is muscles and a bald head - Bane.

Purple Man would be great, only dont refer to him as Purple Man in the actual film. I think Kingpin/the criminal underworld is the way to go. This way, the storyline will be very mature and grittier than any other comic movie out there.

theunrealstudios · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject:

it's all about escalation within a certain amount of time: are we getting a trilogy or is there a market to warrant a 6 picture saga?

major tragedy arc themes the movies could cover

starting up/ origin

nelson murdock fallout

relocation to east coast

losing liscense/ homeless and hunted by fisk

fake death= jack battlin'

outted

kingpin of hells kitchen

prison

a europe hunt

a japan travel

owning the hand

losing the hand

final battle in the streets against fisks hand for hells kitchen

death

you see it's all about escalation and going bigger with each movie. The villains have little to do with it as it's more about the circumstances of Matts life. Even though it resets the status quo from time to time to give him back his life it still gets worse and worse and i want to see this translated on film. if you do an entire graphic novel for one film you WILL NEVER tell the whole life story.

a trilogy means you have to compact ideas and rush the best moments but is more likely to happen and can still do well if the ideas are connected. Drop certain character and replace them. Think outside the box and incorporate something that maybe works well with an idea.

My original thoughts back in 2010 were:

movie#1: origin, events, someone outs him, prison

movie#2: prison, born again, leader of the hand (this is the film where he goes crazy so the most amount of hell he faces)

movie#3: shadowland/ king of hells kitchen, lose the hand, fight with the chaste and the people in the kitchen against kingpins hand/ major villains, resolution. (keep in mind i hate shadowland like all of you but i love the idea if done realistically in a movie. IT CAN work if you know what your doing. It doesn't get more epic for a daredevil ending in all honesty)

ignore the plots of gaurdian devil, father, parts of whole, fall from grace but take story elements from them. Keep it smooth, simple and a plot progession. Take arguablely the best moments of his life and give him a tragedy that he not only survives but rises and becomes a symbol of someone who never gives up. this is what defines him and sets him apart is the movie needs to show what he can take and still keep going.

loves: i only want to see Karen and i'll explain why. There is not enough TIME to develop all the girls we want to see. MSJ gave us the elektra story the same way Raimi gave us the mary jane story. Now it's time to hit a different angle. MAYBE elektra in the third movie but it has to be only Karen and this is why typhoid mary is a problem because she is a love of his and she distracts. She's an antagonist when Matt and Karens relationship is developed not when it's developing because it's too soon. She's a moment of weakness where he cheats and becomes a character flaw for him. This is also a problem because she's perfect for an origin story since she fell out the window in MWF and he's responsible.

wow.....no wonder they need to rewrite, this IS hard. 0_0

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