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Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

Discussion for Marvel's Daredevil S1E9.
Please only discuss elements in this episode (or previous episodes if it applies) but not anything that happens in episodes after this one.

Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

"Speak of the Devil"

-Nobu reminds me of Ikari
-So is he Hand or Yakuza?
-Matt and Fisk meet, love the panic in Matt
-Josie's Bar!
-DD carries his billy clubs now
-Foggy discovering Matt is DD just like in the comics
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MarcWagz · Flying Blind Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 83

so, kobu is a hand ninja correct?
pretty cool that they included the hand without focusing on them.
this was the best fight of the series imo

rgj · Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:59 pm Post subject:

Have been binging on the show. Just got to episode 9. Wasn't going to comment here until I finished, but my first major disappointment happened here. GREAT SHOW, so far, let me make that clear. But the Foggy discovering Matt is DD so early is really disappointing. It's like the writers can't help themselves. I'm guessing by the end of the show, Urich will know (and should) and Karen may too (eventually should). But, Foggy should have learned much later. Loving the show still. Will comment after I finish the series. The Foggy thing really disappointing.
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Mike Murdock · Golden Age Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Posts: 1750

Acerbus · Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject:

Can't believe they introduced The Hand without it looking or seeming ridiculous. this is a major breakthrough for the series. It means that they can do it ninjas, and have it work well! Opens up many, many narrative possibilities.

The big reveal at the end, I agree with others, was a bit too early. Foggy finding out didn't just seem early, it seemed forced. With how private a person Matt Murdock is, particularly given his secret... you mean to tell me Matt gave him a key to his roof access entrance?! Just doesn't make a ton of sense.

Then there's the fact that, on four separate occasions to this point in the series, Foggy has been frantic about whether Matt is okay, including one where he was physically in front of his door... and never, until this magical reveal, did he once remember that he had access to his apartment via his roof... until NOW?!

BIT of a plothole.

Dimetre · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:11 am Post subject:

This may be my favourite episode so far. I love how conflicted Matt is in this episode, and indeed the conversation with the priest in the church outlined this conflict perfectly.

I don't mind that Foggy found out this early. I don't demand that the show follow the chronology of the comic. Marvel Studies, Drew Goddard and Steven DeKnight have been doing a solid enough job that I'm willing to see where they're going with this. At least they're willing to take chances.

humanaccident · Flying Blind Joined: 10 Jul 2014 Posts: 26

I love it when movies and TV shows change some things around, not huge, key things but smaller things, like this, I hate it when they simply copy the comics scene for scene as it seems like a bit of a waste of time for us comic fans.

Good episode, great series, keeping us on our toes nicely! Well played.

Dayle88 · Playing to the Camera Joined: 25 Mar 2015 Posts: 140

This was like an hour of my jaw resting on the floor. To think I thought Matt and Fisk coming face to face in the gallery was going to be a highlight.

I don't understand the problem with Foggy's access to the roof. The only time he tried to get Matt out before was when he and Karen were drunk, right?

Matt's incredible fight with what has to be a medium level Hand ninja confirms Stick's worries.

Steel Serpent logo on the drug packets...

train · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:34 am Post subject:

I'm with rgj on this episode, I would have rather that Foggy found out about Matt's alter ego much later on. It's not a deal breaker for me. It's been a very very good show thus far. I'm taking my time watching the show due to family commitments. I hope to be done with the show by next weekend.

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